Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince [Archive]

Sxottlan

07-29-2008, 08:12 AM

Got a press release at work with sat coordinates for the trailer. Apparently they'll debut it tomorrow, at least among the media.

I am very surprised there has been next to no ads for this, considering it opens in four short months. I just started reading the sixth book and I'm enjoying it so far.

The last film was my favorite of the series so far.

EDIT: The original thought was that the trailer would debut with the new Star Wars film, but now the USA Today says the trailer plays Friday in theatres showing The Mummy 3.

They also had pictures:

http://i.usatoday.net/life/_photos/2008/07/29/potterx-large.jpg

http://images.usatoday.com/life/_photos/2008/07/29/dumbledorex-large.jpg

Qrazy

07-29-2008, 08:15 AM

I still have to read the last book but I guess I have some time before the last film comes out so no real hurry.

Winston*

07-29-2008, 08:54 AM

Can't be worse than the book.

megladon8

07-29-2008, 03:18 PM

I think this is a great movie series.

I doubt I'll see this one in the theatre, but it's definitely one my family will be purchasing.

Wryan

07-29-2008, 05:59 PM

Love the third and fifth (in that order). Looking forward to this only in the hope that it's good. Kinda nervous about the last one, with them trying to boost it by splitting it up. Sounds like a not-so-good idea.

Silencio

07-30-2008, 12:14 AM

Teaser trailer is up.

http://video.msn.com/video.aspx/?mkt=en-gb&vid=bc682eef-e76b-467a-9684-2ffebc997b91&playlist=videoByUuids:uuids:55 9dc068-6410-4b44-b816-14f629c281dd,986e16ee-2961-4c52-a01c-90794bcf7ec3,3e1ccfe0-654d-4c6f-9b72-3835db18eb77&from=ENGB_msnvideo&tab=s1204298895071&from=today_u21&wa=wsignin1.0&vv=600

Henry Gale

07-30-2008, 04:24 AM

EyesWideOpen

07-30-2008, 05:33 AM

Both cool and strange that for a Harry Potter teaser, we barely see him. As someone who didn't read the book, it makes it look like most of the movie takes place in flashback (which I'm assuming it doesn't).

Alot of the book does. I don't remember how much but there is quite a bit of flashbacks.

Watashi

07-30-2008, 06:07 AM

That's a fucking great trailer.

MadMan

07-30-2008, 07:04 AM

Sxottlan

07-30-2008, 08:39 AM

I'm resisting the urge to watch it now so I can see it fresh on the big screen on Friday.

Watashi

07-30-2008, 08:49 AM

I'm resisting the urge to watch it now so I can see it fresh on the big screen on Friday.

......

You're actually going to see The Mummy 3?

Sxottlan

07-30-2008, 08:58 AM

......

You're actually going to see The Mummy 3?

I suppose so.

Morris Schæffer

07-30-2008, 11:16 AM

I've given up on the movies, but I suppose I might as well go all the way now and this teaser really is rather good.

Qrazy

07-30-2008, 12:07 PM

I still have to watch the previous one that was released. I've seen all of the films except for the second one, which I have no desire to view at all. The third and forth films were pretty damn good though. Is this next film going to be the sixth film then? I've completely lost track.

The second is fine, not great but fine, no reason to skip it if you're planning on watching all the others.

Wryan

07-30-2008, 12:28 PM

I'll see The Mummy 3...probably.

Wryan

07-30-2008, 12:28 PM

And I can't hear the trailer. Hate not being able to hear things while I'm at work.

Any rough transcription of the dialogue? Pretty please?

Qrazy

07-30-2008, 12:32 PM

I'll see The Mummy 3...probably.

Does The Scorpion King count as a series entry?

Qrazy

07-30-2008, 12:40 PM

And I can't hear the trailer. Hate not being able to hear things while I'm at work.

Any rough transcription of the dialogue? Pretty please?

What you are looking at are memories, in this case pertaining to one individual. This is perhaps the most important memory I've collected. I'd like you to see it.

In all the years Tom's been here he's never once had a visitor.

You're the doctor, aren't you?
No.
Who are you?
Well, I"m like you Tom. I'm different.
Prove it.

I can make things move without touching them. I can make bad things happen to people who're mean to me. I can speak to snakes too. They find me, whisper things.

Did you know sir, then?
Did I know I'd just met the most dangerous dark wizard of all time? No.

---

Also Dumbledore struck me as very Gandalf-esque in that trailer.

D_Davis

07-30-2008, 02:32 PM

I'll see The Mummy 3...probably.

I'll be there Friday night - the first big Summer "blockbuster" (bomb?) I'm seeing. I love the Mummy movies, and this one looks totally sweet.

Wryan

07-30-2008, 04:11 PM

What you are looking at are memories, in this case pertaining to one individual. This is perhaps the most important memory I've collected. I'd like you to see it.

In all the years Tom's been here he's never once had a visitor.

You're the doctor, aren't you?
No.
Who are you?
Well, I"m like you Tom. I'm different.
Prove it.

I can make things move without touching them. I can make bad things happen to people who're mean to me. I can speak to snakes too. They find me, whisper things.

Did you know sir, then?
Did I know I'd just met the most dangerous dark wizard of all time? No.

---

Also Dumbledore struck me as very Gandalf-esque in that trailer.

Thanks. And I agree, particularly the Gandalf-with-fire-behind-him as he was fighting the balrog. That's the biggest similarity, visually.

And I like Cohen a lot, mostly for Reign of Fire. If M3 can be as stupid and as fun as the first Mummy, with Cohen's senses, it could be a hoot.

Sven

07-30-2008, 04:13 PM

And I like Cohen a lot, mostly for Reign of Fire. If M3 can be as stupid and as fun as the first Mummy, with Cohen's senses, it could be a hoot.

That was Bowman, not Cohen. Do you mean Dragonheart? If you do, God help you.

Wryan

07-30-2008, 04:16 PM

That was Bowman, not Cohen. Do you mean Dragonheart? If you do, God help you.

Oh fuck. You're right. My mistake.

Cohen of Stealth, xXx, The Fast and the Furious, The Skulls, and.....yes......Dragonheart (which I have a guilty pleasure spot for nonetheless).

I may have to reconsider. Someone SHOULD have put Bowman in charge of M3.

Sven

07-30-2008, 04:23 PM

I derive a few pleasures from Cohen's filmography myself, but Dragonheart is most definitely not one of them. I liked it as a middle schooler, but I tried watching it again about a year ago and couldn't finish it. I also didn't like xXx, but I did like Fast and the Furious quite a bit, as well as the Bruce Lee picture he did, and Daylight was pretty tight.

Wryan

07-30-2008, 05:15 PM

Spinal

07-30-2008, 05:20 PM

Harry Potter and the Quantum of Quidditch.

That should be the title.

Wryan

07-30-2008, 05:37 PM

Harry Potter and the Quantum of Quidditch.

That should be the title.

We could strain a thread to its breaking point waxing poetic about humorous HP titles. I think Chaw had a good one once: Harry Potter and the Bubble of Sputum. Something like that.

Sycophant

07-30-2008, 05:38 PM

Harry Potter and Mr. Chicken?

Dukefrukem

07-30-2008, 07:39 PM

I have all the Harry Potters on Blu-ray and I've never watched them...

Should I?

thefourthwall

07-30-2008, 08:36 PM

I still have to watch the previous one that was released. I've seen all of the films except for the second one, which I have no desire to view at all. The third and forth films were pretty damn good though. Is this next film going to be the sixth film then? I've completely lost track.

I actually like the second one much better than the first (which I find to be a tad tedious). If you're looking for overarching continuity in the narrative, books 2 (CoS) and 6 (HBP) have some interesting connections, and I'd highly recommend seeing 2 before 6.

I have all the Harry Potters on Blu-ray and I've never watched them...

Should I?

Erm, why would you own them if you don't plan on watching them?

MadMan

07-30-2008, 08:42 PM

The second is fine, not great but fine, no reason to skip it if you're planning on watching all the others.As I mentioned in my other post, I've seen all the others except for the latest one released last year and the second film. I tried watching the second film actually, but the goddamn annoying creepy looking elf creature resulted in me abandoning the effort. I would blast that thing with a shotgun if it existed in real life.

As for the books, I've only read the first one. Then I quit the series. I have yet to finish a seven book series (I'm two books shy of reading all of the Dark Tower series) simply because I don't see why any series should be longer than three books or four at the most.

Sxottlan

07-31-2008, 08:36 AM

I still have to watch the previous one that was released. I've seen all of the films except for the second one, which I have no desire to view at all. The third and forth films were pretty damn good though.

Having not read the final book and just now reading the sixth, the second book remains my favorite. I just couldn't put that one down. I actually found the third and fourth books very disappointing. Rather enjoyed the fifth book and as I mentioned before, the last film has become my favorite of the adaptations.

At this point though, I'll admit to getting very tired of the Ron/Hermoine bickering. One always got the impression that there was more going on behind the scenes of every book, but by now, I'd think Harry would have demanded to know everything and would have gotten it. Keeping him away from the wizarding world as he grew up was a great way of introducing new elements when Rowling wanted, but by now, if there's still something he doesn't know about, it comes across like he just doesn't care about learning about this other world.

Qrazy

07-31-2008, 08:41 AM

As I mentioned in my other post, I've seen all the others except for the latest one released last year and the second film. I tried watching the second film actually, but the goddamn annoying creepy looking elf creature resulted in me abandoning the effort. I would blast that thing with a shotgun if it existed in real life.

As for the books, I've only read the first one. Then I quit the series. I have yet to finish a seven book series (I'm two books shy of reading all of the Dark Tower series) simply because I don't see why any series should be longer than three books or four at the most.

A word to the wise then, don't read The Wheel of Time... although I love it... the fucking bastard author died before finishing the final book of the series... some editor is piecing his notes together. Also each book is about 1000 pages.

Qrazy

07-31-2008, 08:42 AM

Having not read the final book and just now reading the sixth, the second book remains my favorite. I just couldn't put that one down. I actually found the third and fourth books very disappointing. Rather enjoyed the fifth book and as I mentioned before, the last film has become my favorite of the adaptations.

At this point though, I'll admit to getting very tired of the Ron/Hermoine bickering. One always got the impression that there was more going on behind the scenes of every book, but by now, I'd think Harry would have demanded to know everything and would have gotten it. Keeping him away from the wizarding world as he grew up was a great way of introducing new elements when Rowling wanted, but by now, if there's still something he doesn't know about, it comes across like he's just doesn't care about learning about this other world.

Yeah the series is really formulaic to a fault.

MadMan

08-01-2008, 06:06 AM

A word to the wise then, don't read The Wheel of Time... although I love it... the fucking bastard author died before finishing the final book of the series... some editor is piecing his notes together. Also each book is about 1000 pages.Wow, that's something I would indeed be best avoiding like the plague :lol:

Oh and I finally viewed the teaser. Its quite good, and even a bit creepy. However what the hell is with the shot of Dumbledore surrounded by flame that's appears to be straight out of the Balrog versus Gandalf scene in LOTRs? Seriously.

thefourthwall

08-04-2008, 02:11 AM

Yeah the series is really formulaic to a fault.

Only if following in the tradition of archetypes that have been around for centuries and form the basis for most cultural narratives is formulaic.

Qrazy

08-04-2008, 02:22 AM

Only if following in the tradition of archetypes that have been around for centuries and form the basis for most cultural narratives is formulaic.

Um, no.

Feel free to like Harry Potter, heck I like Harry Potter but it is unbelievably formulaic. Here's nearly every book in a nutshell (changes a little in the last two books):

1. Harry Potter starts at home where he gets no respect and wants to leave.
2. Potter goes to school and gets bullied a bit by Malfoy and cronies.
3. Harry and co gets in some negligible trouble with staff at Hogwarts... even though he's saved the school multiple times he's still not trusted or respected.
4. Voldemort tries different ways to return and eventually succeeds.
5. Introduce red herrings, often Snape acts as one.
6. Cram for school, go on holidays... as an orphan feels sad and crap.
7. Play Quidditch, seem to be behind and then win somehow also managing to win the house cup at the end... usually after getting extra points for saving the school.
8. Dismiss red herrings, wrap story with a major/minor twist.
9. Saved the day, go back to muggle life.

thefourthwall

08-04-2008, 02:46 AM

Um, no.

Feel free to like Harry Potter, heck I like Harry Potter but it is unbelievably formulaic. Here's nearly every book in a nutshell (changes a little in the last two books):

1. Harry Potter starts at home where he gets no respect and wants to leave.
2. Potter goes to school and gets bullied a bit by Malfoy and cronies.
3. Harry and co gets in some negligible trouble with staff at Hogwarts... even though he's saved the school multiple times he's still not trusted or respected.
4. Voldemort tries different ways to return and eventually succeeds.
5. Introduce red herrings, often Snape acts as one.
6. Cram for school, go on holidays... as an orphan feels sad and crap.
7. Play Quidditch, seem to be behind and then win somehow also managing to win the house cup at the end... usually after getting extra points for saving the school.
8. Dismiss red herrings, wrap story with a major/minor twist.
9. Saved the day, go back to muggle life.

1. An outsider different and alienated in his/her "home" community.
2. Foil to let us see the true character/greatness of the protagonist.
3. A prophet is without honor only in his own town.
4. Evil is on the rise.
5. Red herrings=narrative complications=plot=necessary for it to be a narrative.
6. Minimal time spent here, which conforms to the school narrative genre (though I admit this isn't a strong archetype).
7. Hero has to have a natural ability at something that inspires others. (Plus, the house cup is awarded in less than half of the books.)
8. If it's a twist, how is it formulaic?
9. Returns to let the cycle start again, until the meta-narrative is concluded.

Formulaic maybe, but in an important, universal to humanity sort of way, not a cop out, ho-hum manner.

Raiders

08-04-2008, 02:47 AM

Well, school is nothing if not repetitious.

MadMan

08-04-2008, 03:20 AM

Well, school is nothing if not repetitious.Which is why I prefer Tolken to Rowling.

Silencio

08-04-2008, 03:32 AM

Part of the series' charm lies in its repetitiveness. Rowling has created this niche that fans are comfortable with. What you see as repetitiveness they (and I include myself here) see what makes the Harry Potter world such a charming, imaginative, and lived-in atmosphere in the first place. It's the sense of knowing that you can come back to these characters and live their plights with them that makes it so widely attractive in the first place. Plus all those formulas you outlined are almost always met with certain detours with each subsequent book. Hell, the seventh book completely drops each and every single one.

Dead & Messed Up

08-04-2008, 05:42 AM

Which is why I prefer Tolken to Rowling.

Yeah, cause Tolkein wasn't repetitive at all...

1) Characters eat.
2) Characters sing a song.
3) Characters walk.

Repeat ad infinitum.

Qrazy

08-04-2008, 06:40 AM

1. An outsider different and alienated in his/her "home" community.
2. Foil to let us see the true character/greatness of the protagonist.
3. A prophet is without honor only in his own town.
4. Evil is on the rise.
5. Red herrings=narrative complications=plot=necessary for it to be a narrative.
6. Minimal time spent here, which conforms to the school narrative genre (though I admit this isn't a strong archetype).
7. Hero has to have a natural ability at something that inspires others. (Plus, the house cup is awarded in less than half of the books.)
8. If it's a twist, how is it formulaic?
9. Returns to let the cycle start again, until the meta-narrative is concluded.

Formulaic maybe, but in an important, universal to humanity sort of way, not a cop out, ho-hum manner.

No, in a this is the formula it will be repeated because it sells kind of way. A twist is formulaic when you know there's a twist coming every single time. The difference between archetype and formula is that an archetype 'hero's journey and all that shit' can be executed in widely different manners to create a compelling narrative. The first five books are basically a blueprint of the first book with character updates. Contrast these books with Lord of the Rings, Wheel of Time or film-wise with Star Wars (OT), The Wire, even Indiana Jones... all of these certainly have archetypes (somewhat less so The Wire) and to one degree or another they even have formulas... the difference is they don't have painfully obvious formulas.

Qrazy

08-04-2008, 06:41 AM

Part of the series' charm lies in its repetitiveness. Rowling has created this niche that fans are comfortable with. What you see as repetitiveness they (and I include myself here) see what makes the Harry Potter world such a charming, imaginative, and lived-in atmosphere in the first place. It's the sense of knowing that you can come back to these characters and live their (the same) plights with them that makes it so widely attractive in the first place.

It's also what makes it cheap and easy. You can live the plights of the characters in any good fantasy series but some series actually advance their stories they don't tell a single story then reboot and repeat the initial story with window dressing.

thefourthwall

08-04-2008, 04:41 PM

Contrast these books with Lord of the Rings, Wheel of Time or film-wise with Star Wars (OT), The Wire, even Indiana Jones... all of these certainly have archetypes (somewhat less so The Wire) and to one degree or another they even have formulas... the difference is they don't have painfully obvious formulas.

On some level, I suppose we should note that the target audience for these books was first children, not the case with the other texts you mentioned. Children are not yet so blasé in their need to be impressed and surprised with something radically new and innovative in their narratives. I'm not suggesting that children's media should be thoughtless and held to no standard of excellence, but it is where archetypes and ideology are taught, so repetition is helpful in reinforcing these patterns.

MadMan

08-05-2008, 01:45 AM

Yeah, cause Tolkein wasn't repetitive at all...

1) Characters eat.
2) Characters sing a song.
3) Characters walk.

Repeat ad infinitum.Well it also largely stems from the fact that one is set in an awesome fantasy world and the other is set in a school. Yes one that exists in a fantasy world, but its still a school. Bah.

Qrazy

08-05-2008, 02:01 AM

Well it also largely stems from the fact that one is set in an awesome fantasy world and the other is set in a school. Yes one that exists in a fantasy world, but its still a school. Bah.

Tolkien is infinitely better, no need to qualify that statement.

Silencio

08-14-2008, 08:49 PM

This was just pushed back to next summer.

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/harry-potter-6-moves-to-summer-2009/

Henry Gale

08-14-2008, 09:07 PM

Just heard, and it sucks.

I'm not the biggest fan of the series, but it was at least something I was looking forward to coming out in just a few months.

Morris Schæffer

09-11-2008, 10:50 AM

This was just pushed back to next summer.

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/harry-potter-6-moves-to-summer-2009/

And now we know why apparently:

It looks like there's some truth to the rumors that Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince was moved back for more than just box office timing. There was some speculation going that while Warner Bros. decision to move the sixth installment to a mid July 2009 debut smacked of copying The Dark Knight's successful debut, there were also issues with the film itself.

Those rumors seem to be confirmed from what early screening reviews have popped up online this week. While these screenings taking place in Chicago this past weekend are incredibly early with the film not officially wrapped and post production nowhere near complete, it does give Warner Bros. executives Alan Horn, producer David Heyman and director David Yates a chance to listen to the feedback and correct critical errors before the release next summer.

The biggest complaint from the screenings out of Chicago seem to be that not enough focus was given on "The Half-Blood Prince", the vital flashbacks into Voldemort's past and the ending climax was completely changed around.

If you don't care about spoilers or you have already read Rowling's sixth novel, you can get an idea on the feedback issues from the screening by clicking here.

monolith94

09-13-2008, 03:39 PM

The "here" in morris' article should lead here: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/38251

For interested parties.

Watashi

10-27-2008, 12:14 AM

New trailer (http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/harry-potter-and-half-blood-prince/feature-trailer)

Looks really awesome.

EyesWideOpen

10-27-2008, 12:43 AM

Yep that looked really good. It's been so long i've forgotten most of what happens in that book.

Saya

10-27-2008, 03:32 PM

It looks great. Too bad it is still so far off.

Sxottlan

10-27-2008, 07:32 PM

Er, is the apparent burning of the Weasley home from the beginning of Book 7? I don't remember that happening in Book 6 and I haven't read the final book yet. Reminds me of how they ended the film version of FOTR.

Wryan

10-27-2008, 08:11 PM

number8

10-27-2008, 08:21 PM

Love the gag at the end.

Lasse

10-27-2008, 08:36 PM

Love the gag at the end.

What does he say, at the very end, after "I'm very sorry"?

Sxottlan

11-14-2008, 09:21 PM

Another new trailer (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=11750) down at the bottom of their page. Looks like that bridge collapse mentioned in the first chapter will be shown.

What does he say, at the very end, after "I'm very sorry"?

I think he said he was just kidding.

Dead & Messed Up

11-14-2008, 09:30 PM

Hogwarts gets more and more overcast with each passing year. They might as well make the last film black and white.

That said, I'm looking forward to it. I haven't disliked a Potter movie yet.

Watashi

03-06-2009, 12:19 AM

Full trailer. (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/wbmovies/halfbloodprince/trl2/Harry_Potter_TRL_2A_Large.mov)

Wryan

03-06-2009, 01:55 PM

Hogwarts gets more and more overcast with each passing year. They might as well make the last film black and white.

I utterly thought you were talking about overcast with actors and thought, "Why the fuck would that matter if it was in B&W?"

Full trailer looks great. I hope Yates surpasses the already-excellent fifth film.

Kurosawa Fan

03-06-2009, 02:38 PM

Full trailer. (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/wbmovies/halfbloodprince/trl2/Harry_Potter_TRL_2A_Large.mov)

Loved the music, but the trailer was a bit unimpressive. Kind of bland actually.

thefourthwall

07-10-2009, 09:36 PM

So, will I be the only match-cutter at a midnight showing?

EyesWideOpen

07-10-2009, 09:42 PM

So, will I be the only match-cutter at a midnight showing?

I hate people & crowds so I won't be at a midnight showing but me and the wife are pretty big HP fans so we'll be seeing it the following day.

Dead & Messed Up

07-10-2009, 10:11 PM

So, will I be the only match-cutter at a midnight showing?

I'd love to, but I probably won't.

Watashi

07-11-2009, 12:32 AM

I see everything at midnight. I'll be there.

thefourthwall

07-11-2009, 03:55 AM

I think the midnight showing lends itself better to dressing up, which I've done a number of times, although I think this time, I'll settle for a snarky homemade t-shirt. My favorite one of times gone by "Single and Ready to Get Sirius." Still brainstorming for this one.

Sycophant

07-11-2009, 04:21 AM

I have a friend who attends HP midnight screenings mainly to show off his "I'm With Muggle" tee shirt.

MadMan

07-11-2009, 05:31 AM

Wednesday at the movie theater is going to suck. At the same time, I will end up getting to see this for free. One trade off for another, I suppose.

lovejuice

07-11-2009, 05:57 AM

Full trailer. (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/wbmovies/halfbloodprince/trl2/Harry_Potter_TRL_2A_Large.mov)
seem like it's an in thing now to destroy hanging bridge.

Ezee E

07-11-2009, 07:29 PM

Not being a large Harry Potter, I can't remember a thing that happened in the fourth movie, and just Voldemoort appearing at the end of five.

Dead & Messed Up

07-11-2009, 07:34 PM

Not being a large Harry Potter, I can't remember a thing that happened in the fourth movie, and just Voldemoort appearing at the end of five.

I remember them broadly. The fourth is the one with the tournament, where Harry swims underwater and goes through the big maze and runs into Voldemort. The fifth has that bitch schoolteacher and the awesome big wizard fight at the end (long overdue) and Helena Bonham Carter looking mighty evil.

I should rewatch 'em all.

chrisnu

07-11-2009, 08:46 PM

transmogrifier

07-11-2009, 08:49 PM

Not being a large Harry Potter, I can't remember a thing that happened in the fourth movie, and just Voldemoort appearing at the end of five.

Yeah, I honestly can't even remember if I even watched the last one. They are all so repetitive and samey with totally fabricated mini-obstacles that spring out of nowhere and mean nothing, it's tough to keep them separated. The only thing I know for certain is that the one Cuaron did had time travel. Right?

thefourthwall

07-11-2009, 10:28 PM

Snape Kills Dumbledore?

:lol: I like. The only thing I've got is "Slug Club."

Ezee E

07-11-2009, 10:55 PM

Yeah, I honestly can't even remember if I even watched the last one. They are all so repetitive and samey with totally fabricated mini-obstacles that spring out of nowhere and mean nothing, it's tough to keep them separated. The only thing I know for certain is that the one Cuaron did had time travel. Right?
Yes. Easily the best of the bunch.

EyesWideOpen

07-12-2009, 01:36 AM

I've decided to rewatch them all in anticipation of the new one. The first one down and it held up alot better then I thought it would.

number8

07-12-2009, 01:41 AM

Yeah, I'm gonna rewatch 3-5.

Sycophant

07-12-2009, 01:44 AM

I still haven't seen movies 4 and 5 (I disliked 1 and 2, and thought 3 was alright), but I was surprised to find myself wanting to see this after seeing the trailer yesterday.

Dead & Messed Up

07-12-2009, 04:09 AM

I still haven't seen movies 4 and 5 (I disliked 1 and 2, and thought 3 was alright), but I was surprised to find myself wanting to see this after seeing the trailer yesterday.

3 > 4 > 5 > 2 > 1

Sycophant

07-12-2009, 04:10 AM

Not exactly encouraging me to catch up, DaMu.

monolith94

07-12-2009, 05:08 AM

One word that's putting my ass in the seat:
Delbonnel.

transmogrifier

07-12-2009, 05:53 AM

I still haven't seen movies 4 and 5 (I disliked 1 and 2, and thought 3 was alright), but I was surprised to find myself wanting to see this after seeing the trailer yesterday.

My advice is to just randomly remember scenes from the three you have seen, and then imagine an ending where Voldermort gets wasted finally (this was just a guess on my part, seeing as I haven't read the books. Turns out I was right and apparently it'll ruin the surprise to discover that the most obvious thing that could have happened actually happened) and that should take care of the rest of the series without the bother of actually watching it.

Watashi

07-12-2009, 06:31 AM

Stop posting in this thread, trans.

And stop posting fucking spoilers.

transmogrifier

07-12-2009, 06:54 AM

Stop posting in this thread, trans.

And stop posting fucking spoilers.

Wait, what? Is me guessing the ending a spoiler? I've never read the books, and never cared enough to find out what happened. It was a simple assumption on my part based on the general dullness of the series as a whole. I'm kind of a little sad that I was right.

PS: For what it's worth, this is my third post in this thread, putting me in a four-way tie for tenth. I'm sorry for spamming your quasi-childhood memories.

Watashi

07-12-2009, 07:01 AM

That's 3 posts too many considering you brought nothing of value.

Please leave.

Duncan

07-12-2009, 07:04 AM

I dunno, I think that first post has value. I honestly can't remember if I've seen the fifth film either. He's pointing out a pretty valid flaw in the series there.

transmogrifier

07-12-2009, 07:06 AM

I dunno, I think that first post has value. I honestly can't remember if I've seen the fifth film either. He's pointing out a pretty valid flaw in the series there.

And it wasn't a lie either. I really can't remember. I'm sure if I go to IMDB and check a plot synopsis, I'll figure it out, but that is hardly a ringing endorsement of the brilliance of the series. There is not nearly enough scope or twists to sustain seven whole movies.

EDIT: And in answer to your question elsewhere, pretty fucking annoying, I guess, if you find it impossible to tolerate any type of dissent whatsoever.

EDIT 2: Fourth post. I guess I'm slowly bringing confirming your original complaint. It's like you're some sort of mind-reader or something.

trotchky

07-12-2009, 07:06 AM

That's 3 posts too many considering you brought nothing of value.

Please leave.

Harry Potter sucks, get over yourself.

Watashi

07-12-2009, 07:06 AM

I dunno, I think that first post has value. I honestly can't remember if I've seen the fifth film either. He's pointing out a pretty valid flaw in the series there.
Oh please. Stop encouraging him. I remember the 5th film fine. I don't slobber over this franchise, but I am a fan, and for trans to annoyingly and predicatablely post his distaste in a rather mean-spirited manner is uncalled for.

It's ridiculous how he thinks he's cute and innocent by pretending not to care.

Just because you have an opinion, doesn't mean it's worth posting.

Derek

07-12-2009, 07:07 AM

PS: For what it's worth, this is my third post in this thread, putting me in a four-way tie for tenth. I'm sorry for spamming your quasi-childhood memories.

There's a reason this forum is sub-titled "Optimistic Forward-Looking Snap Judgments to Which Those Who Disagree Can Get Their Elitist Asses Out of Here and Feel Free To %!$!& Themselves And So On...".

transmogrifier

07-12-2009, 07:10 AM

And in response to your comment posted elsewhere, I don't really care.

I do agree though, that Emma Watson is hot, assuming this self-evident fact has previously been mentioned in this thread.

Watashi

07-12-2009, 07:11 AM

And in response to your comment posted elsewhere, I don't really care.

That's your overall problem, you never to seem care about anything.

transmogrifier

07-12-2009, 07:12 AM

There's a reason this forum is sub-titled "Optimistic Forward-Looking Snap Judgments to Which Those Who Disagree Can Get Their Elitist Asses Out of Here and Feel Free To %!$!& Themselves And So On...".

True that. To be fair, I was quite the Positive Polly over in the Thirst thread.

EDIT: Awesomely, this post can be a direct response to Watashi's post just above as well. Who's the mind reader now!

Derek

07-12-2009, 07:15 AM

That's your overall problem, you never to seem care about anything.

I think the problem is that you care a little too much, Wats. It's your burden. You have too much love to give.

http://www.zuguide.com/image/William-H-Macy-Magnolia.jpg

transmogrifier

07-12-2009, 07:17 AM

Duncan

07-12-2009, 07:19 AM

Oh please. Stop encouraging him. I remember the 5th film fine. I don't slobber over this franchise, but I am a fan, and for trans to annoyingly and predicatablely post his distaste in a rather mean-spirited manner is uncalled for.

It's ridiculous how he thinks he's cute and innocent by pretending not to care.

Just because you have an opinion, doesn't mean it's worth posting.

Well, I don't often post in this sub-forum (or even read it for that matter), but from what I can tell it's a bunch of threads where half the people say "looks good" and the other half say "I'll pass." In the case of sequels, and if you look at the thread titles there are a hell of a lot of sequels, everyone chirps in on what they thought of the previous film(s). So what he was doing seemed like pretty standard posting practice, and I kind of agreed word for word with him, and I don't see why posting a positive opinion is any more valid than posting a negative opinion.

Watashi

07-12-2009, 07:28 AM

Well, I don't often post in this sub-forum (or even read it for that matter), but from what I can tell it's a bunch of threads where half the people say "looks good" and the other half say "I'll pass." In the case of sequels, and if you look at the thread titles there are a hell of a lot of sequels, everyone chirps in on what they thought of the previous film(s). So what he was doing seemed like pretty standard posting practice, and I kind of agreed word for word with him, and I don't see why posting a positive opinion is any more valid than posting a negative opinion.

I don't see why the minimalist nature of this sub-forum (why does anticipating movies around here feel like being in the minority) would bother you, but I happen to really enjoy looking forward to upcoming movies just as much as discussing recent and old films.

There is nothing wrong with dissent, but trans's dissent is a different beast. He seeks out and phrases his input not as open discussion, but as pure bait-tactic. He strives on singling himself out while pissing the so-called "fanboys" of the franchises he doesn't like. Just look how trans always loves to remind the board how much he hates The Dark Knight whenever meg post something Batman-related.

transmogrifier

07-12-2009, 07:58 AM

Some statistics:

Batman 3:
Total Posts = 209
My contribution = 9
% of thread fanboys being pissed on = 4.3%

Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince:
Total Posts = 98
My contribution = 7
My contribution that is actually related to the movie = 4
% of thread fanboys being pissed on = 4.1%

Indiana Jones 5:
Total Posts = 174
My contribution = 15
Posts expressly defending Temple of Doom and Pauline Kael = 10
% of thread fanboys being pissed on = 2.8%

Up:
Total Posts = 773
My contribution = 20
% of thread fanboys being pissed on = 2.7%

The Dark Knight Thread:
Total Posts = 2,676
My contribution = 41
My contribution that is actually related to the movie = 4
% of thread fanboys being pissed on = 1.5%

The Hobbit:
Total Posts = 207
My contribution = 2
% of thread fanboys being pissed on = 1%

Thor, Iron Man 2 etc thread:
Total Posts = 223
My contribution = 2
% of thread fanboys being pissed on = 0.8%

Terminator: Salvation:
Total Posts = 346
My contribution = 1
% of thread fanboys being pissed on = 0.3%

Spider-Man 4 & 5:
Total Posts = 115
My contribution = 0
% of thread fanboys being pissed on = 0%

Wolverine:
Total Posts = 346
My contribution = 0
% of thread fanboys being pissed on = 0%

Horror Movie Discussion:
Total Posts = 443
My contribution = 0
% of thread fanboys being pissed on = 0%

Star Trek:
Total Posts = 570
My contribution = 0
% of thread fanboys being pissed on = 0%

Yes, I am history's greatest monster, no doubt.

trotchky

07-12-2009, 08:00 AM

I don't see why the minimalist nature of this sub-forum (why does anticipating movies around here feel like being in the minority) would bother you, but I happen to really enjoy looking forward to upcoming movies just as much as discussing recent and old films.

There is nothing wrong with dissent, but trans's dissent is a different beast. He seeks out and phrases his input not as open discussion, but as pure bait-tactic. He strives on singling himself out while pissing the so-called "fanboys" of the franchises he doesn't like. Just look how trans always loves to remind the board how much he hates The Dark Knight whenever meg post something Batman-related.

I don't read his posts as bait, at all, and I don't know why anyone but a "fanboy" would. I'd like to think we're all above that sort of mentality and can honestly critique things without fear of upsetting some franchise-based hivemind.

Watashi

07-12-2009, 08:54 AM

(last trans-related post in this thread)

I don't see what your thread digging stats really mean. It's not the amount of posts, but the content.

Here is some of my own digging.

Crocheting > The Dark Knight

Final Destination 2 > The Dark Knight

Easily.

How else can I revel in my aged decepitness except to assume that all young people don't know anything about anything? Look at the Dark Knight thread for God's sake.

The Dark Knight winning Best Picture would hopefully, finally, put the nail in the coffin of the Oscars actually meaning anything anymore. Might as well just merge with the MTV Awards.

Identity > The Dark Knight

Only one of those quotes is in The Dark Knight thread.

lovejuice

07-12-2009, 09:03 AM

i'll say that harry potter movies are pretty good though...
...considered the source material. :evil:

transmogrifier

07-12-2009, 09:05 AM

(last trans-related post in this thread)

I don't see what your thread digging stats really mean. It's not the amount of posts, but the content.

Here is some of my own digging.

Only one of those quotes is in The Dark Knight thread.

You'll need to enlighten me how any of that corresponds to a hissy fit over not remembering Harry Potter 5.

Ezee E

07-12-2009, 11:24 AM

Isn't it easier to just ignore it?

Sycophant

07-12-2009, 02:44 PM

Wats, please go into this thread (http://match-cut.org/showthread.php?t=2152) and bitch everyone out for being negative.

thefourthwall

07-12-2009, 03:31 PM

i'll say that harry potter movies are pretty good though...
...considered the source material. :evil:

:cry: You...you don't like the books. And you were my literary hero here. Now, it's over.

lovejuice

07-12-2009, 04:50 PM

:cry: You...you don't like the books. And you were my literary hero here. Now, it's over.
i really like 2nd.
i enjoy 1st and 7th.
3rd and 4th are ok.
i can't stand 5th and 6th.
unfortunately i start this serie after book 4 comes out, so most of my harry potter memory evolves around the two worse books in the series imo.

Watashi

07-12-2009, 05:03 PM

Wats, please go into this thread (http://match-cut.org/showthread.php?t=2152) and bitch everyone out for being negative.
I haven't seen or read the Twilight books/movies.

Watashi

07-12-2009, 05:34 PM

I think I'm still drunk.

Watashi

07-12-2009, 05:35 PM

Anyway, my #1 reason to see the new Potter film is for more Luna Lovegood.

Dead & Messed Up

07-12-2009, 05:38 PM

Not exactly encouraging me to catch up, DaMu.

In retrospect, I'm not sure what the point of that post was.

:)

As for Trans's comments, I'm all for dissent and disagreement, and I'd be a fool if I didn't notice the self-similarity of all the different chapters.

Every Harry Potter film has him battling a different, more powerful iteration of Voldemort's power, while he's simultaneously battling his own self-doubt, recruiting more friends, and enlisting the aid of convenient new teachers.

What I respond to is the relatively light, good-humored tone, the capable actors (young and old), and the lovely world created. If one argued the series was inconsequential, I'd be hard-pressed to counter with evidence, but I'll be damned if I haven't been enjoying myself thoroughly.

Kurosawa Fan

07-12-2009, 10:49 PM

Here is some of my own digging.

Only one of those quotes is in The Dark Knight thread.

I agree with every one of those posts. And I also agree that there's nothing wrong with trans posting his opinion on these films, no matter which thread they appear. It's no different that you posting in several threads how much you love The Dark Knight (or Up or anything else) if I dislike that film. You're being far too sensitive.

Watashi

07-13-2009, 01:06 AM

I agree with every one of those posts. And I also agree that there's nothing wrong with trans posting his opinion on these films, no matter which thread they appear. It's no different that you posting in several threads how much you love The Dark Knight (or Up or anything else) if I dislike that film. You're being far too sensitive.
I don't care for The Dark Knight anymore. Why do you automatically assume I slobber over something when someone says something negative about a film. I just don't like how trans continues to make his point over and over and over and over and over and over.

Kurosawa Fan

07-13-2009, 01:11 AM

I don't care for The Dark Knight anymore. Why do you automatically assume I slobber over something when someone says something negative about a film. I just don't like how trans continues to make his point over and over and over and over and over and over.

I only brought up The Dark Knight because you copy and pasted trans' comments about that movie. I don't really care if you liked it or not, because you're missing my point. Why don't you show the same animosity toward meg every time he praises the film? One opinion isn't any more valid than the other. It's the same with your overreaction to Spinal's negative opinion toward Up. You're too sensitive when someone criticizes something you enjoy. You try to write them off as being less genuine about their feelings than you are, and it's rude.

Watashi

07-13-2009, 01:11 AM

Plus, I apologized in the Up thread regarding me going cuckoo towards Spinal's review. I still stand by my reasonings, but I did go too far. I don't care if trans doesn't like Harry Potter or Batman or whatever, but he doesn't need to be so obviously rude and disruptive in his random outbursts.

Watashi

07-13-2009, 01:14 AM

I only brought up The Dark Knight because you copy and pasted trans' comments about that movie. I don't really care if you liked it or not, because you're missing my point. Why don't you show the same animosity toward meg every time he praises the film? One opinion isn't any more valid than the other. It's the same with your overreaction to Spinal's negative opinion toward Up. You're too sensitive when someone criticizes something you enjoy. You try to write them off as being less genuine about their feelings than you are, and it's rude.

Why would I show animosity towards meg? He enjoys the film. I'll let him enjoy the film. He has a strong passion for those films. I (or trans) shouldn't have to be a negative Nancy every time he posts something Batman-related.

I'm not too sensitive. It's all about the tone of their direction in their posts. I don't like being baited when I happen to love certain films that go with the masses.

Randomly saying that Identity is better than The Dark Knight when the latter film isn't even in mention is trans sticking the needle further into meg trying to get a reaction. That is not useful criticism.

Winston*

07-13-2009, 01:21 AM

I dunno, I kind of agree with Watashi when he says that transmogrifier had wrung all the comedic liquid out of the Dark Knight disparagement cloth until it became a shrivelled grey rag.

Llopin

07-13-2009, 01:25 AM

I read the books as well, and have seen all the films to this point. I think they are mostly valid as entertainment goes, and Rowling´s world is vividly evoked. I kinda observe with irony and amusement the distaste from those around here; I believe this series of films would have been "childhood favourites" if seen at a young age (they are certainly better than many films cherished around purely by nostalgic standards).

Kurosawa Fan

07-13-2009, 01:34 AM

Why would I show animosity towards meg? He enjoys the film. I'll let him enjoy the film. He has a strong passion for those films. I (or trans) shouldn't have to be a negative Nancy every time he posts something Batman-related.

I'm not too sensitive. It's all about the tone of their direction in their posts. I don't like being baited when I happen to love certain films that go with the masses.

Randomly saying that Identity is better than The Dark Knight when the latter film isn't even in mention is trans sticking the needle further into meg trying to get a reaction. That is not useful criticism.

Nothing that trans said about Harry Potter was rude or disruptive. And frankly, neither were the posts you pointed out about The Dark Knight. Were they funny? Apparently not, if we're going by Winston*, but they were attempts at humor, not at rudeness.

If meg were to randomly post that The Dark Knight > Juno in a thread, that would be a problem for you then? It has to be a useful criticism? Because I'm fairly certain that at some point trans has criticized The Dark Knight for its flaws. I don't think it's necessary to do it every time. Those other posts your referenced were obviously attempts at humor, not personal insults hurled in anyone's direction. I can't say the same for some of your posts.

Watashi

07-13-2009, 01:47 AM

Nothing that trans said about Harry Potter was rude or disruptive. And frankly, neither were the posts you pointed out about The Dark Knight. Were they funny? Apparently not, if we're going by Winston*, but they were attempts at humor, not at rudeness.

I felt that trans spoiled a major plot point in the Harry Potter series. Whether the spoiler was obvious or not, I have not read the final book, and I find posting spoiler to be very rude (remember my freak-out in the Lost thread?). Yeah, I was harsh in return, but instead of just saying, "hey sorry, I'll fix it", he played the innocent card and pretending it doesn't matter because he was being assumptive on his behalf and how he was sorry for "spamming your quasi-childhood memories." What was the purpose of that? My quasi-childhood memories? I don't get it. Just because I'm not looking forward to a lot of films you guys are, I'll be in good behavior and not trample anyone's expectations on posting assumptive spoilers. Start reading posts through more than just your eyes. I've had my bad days, but I always apologize, but I try not to drive the nail any further.

If meg were to randomly post that The Dark Knight > Juno in a thread, that would be a problem for you then? It has to be a useful criticism? Because I'm fairly certain that at some point trans has criticized The Dark Knight for its flaws. I don't think it's necessary to do it every time. Those other posts your referenced were obviously attempts at humor, not personal insults hurled in anyone's direction. I can't say the same for some of your posts.

I don't understand what you're saying. If both Juno and Dark Knight were being discussed, I don't see why I would have a problem, but if someone said they loved Juno and started talking about it and meg out of nowhere stated that The Dark Knight is a better film because the other person is not a fan is a bait-tactic in trying to get a rise out of the poster. trans has a history of this. If he did it here and there, it wouldn't bother me as much.

I have no idea why you posted that last sentence. Now that is a bait move right there and I'm not falling for it.

Watashi

07-13-2009, 01:50 AM

We're giving trans way too much attention right now. He's probably smiling with glee reading all these posts.

I'm done.

(for good)

(honestly)

Kurosawa Fan

07-13-2009, 02:06 AM

I felt that trans spoiled a major plot point in the Harry Potter series. Whether the spoiler was obvious or not, I have not read the final book, and I find posting spoiler to be very rude (remember my freak-out in the Lost thread?). Yeah, I was harsh in return, but instead of just saying, "hey sorry, I'll fix it", he played the innocent card and pretending it doesn't matter because he was being assumptive on his behalf and how he was sorry for "spamming your quasi-childhood memories." What was the purpose of that? My quasi-childhood memories? I don't get it. Just because I'm not looking forward to a lot of films you guys are, I'll be in good behavior and not trample anyone's expectations on posting assumptive spoilers. Start reading posts through more than just your eyes. I've had my bad days, but I always apologize, but I try not to drive the nail any further.

So you think that trans has secretly read all the Harry Potter books and spoiled something on purpose? Is that what you're saying here by claiming that he used the "innocent card"? Because if he hasn't read the books, then he was making an honest assumption and wasn't spoiling anything. Hence the fact that he didn't need spoiler text, and your reaction to his post was uncalled for.

I don't understand what you're saying. If both Juno and Dark Knight were being discussed, I don't see why I would have a problem, but if someone said they loved Juno and started talking about it and meg out of nowhere stated that The Dark Knight is a better film because the other person is not a fan is a bait-tactic in trying to get a rise out of the poster. trans has a history of this. If he did it here and there, it wouldn't bother me as much.

I have no idea why you posted that last sentence. Now that is a bait move right there and I'm not falling for it.

You're overreacting to a joke that trans is posting. By posting that crocheting is greater than The Dark Knight, I thought that would be obvious. If meg came into a thread where people were discussing Juno, and in an obvious joking manner posted that The Dark Knight > Juno, that would be problematic for you? That was my question. Because I don't understand how you can be so fired up about a bunch of joke posts. If you didn't like the film, you wouldn't care. That's why you're being too sensitive. The only time you get upset is when you really care about a film (Up, Harry Potter, etc.) that someone is joking about or ripping apart, as if they're attempting to hurt you personally. They're insulting the movie, not you.

And that last sentence wasn't baiting, it was the truth. While trans may get on your nerves, he generally reserves his jokes and snide remarks for the films, not for the posters. You on the other hand tend to write people off as being disingenuous and make rude remarks about them personally (like your remark that trans was pretending not to care, and that his opinion isn't worth posting) when they insult films you are passionate about. I'd like you to find a post where he tells you that you're being disingenuous and that your opinions aren't worth posting. Or insults you in that manner without you taking a shot at him first. I don't read every post on this forum, so perhaps I'm wrong (and if I am, I'll apologize), but it's been my experience that that isn't the case.

Watashi

07-13-2009, 02:14 AM

I'm done. I don't see the need to respond, because I'll never get my perspective across. I don't understand why this argument is even taking place.

I just didn't want to know that Voldemort dies as obvious as it may be, and I felt he was being snide towards the films and their fans. I have only enjoyed two of the films in the franchise. I'm not passionate about it at all.

I give up. I lose. Whatever.

Watashi

07-13-2009, 02:18 AM

Also, why in the hell wouldn't you use spoiler tags if you're making honest assumptions about something you haven't seen or read? It's fun to speculate about what happens, but trans wasn't speculating out of curiousity or fun.

I don't get that AT ALL.

Watashi

07-13-2009, 02:20 AM

lovejuice

07-13-2009, 03:47 AM

nothing to do with the debate here, but i come to a realization that as far as the books go, at least harry potter are way better than twilight and da vinci code series.

:sigh:

Dead & Messed Up

07-13-2009, 04:20 AM

At least we can all agree that Harry Potter is a better series than Lord of the Rings.

Sycophant

07-13-2009, 04:22 AM

No we can't.

Dead & Messed Up

07-13-2009, 04:24 AM

But we probably should.

Sycophant

07-13-2009, 04:29 AM

The Lord of the Rings series never had an entry directed by Chris Columbus, so.

Ezee E

07-13-2009, 04:33 AM

The Lord of the Rings series never had an entry directed by Chris Columbus, so.
and their books were never written by a woman.

Dead & Messed Up

07-13-2009, 04:34 AM

The Lord of the Rings series never had an entry directed by Chris Columbus, so.

Yes, but it had three directed by Peter "Swing the Fuck Outta that Camera" Jackson.

Duncan

07-13-2009, 04:39 AM

It's not that I was angry at trans for not posting it in spoiler tags, but why he bothered to even post it at all.

This will be my last post in this thread.

Hell, this will be my last post on this forum for a while.

Listen, Wats, Bono > Harry Potter. It's just something that's so not worth getting upset over. I'm a little drunk right now, but my opinion is that you shouldn't pull a meg and just stick around. So some guy in New Zealand thinks it's funny to diss The Dark Knight (and another New Zealander doesn't). Doesn't affect you.

Ezee E

07-13-2009, 04:42 AM

Listen, Wats, Bono > Harry Potter. It's just something that's so not worth getting upset over. I'm a little drunk right now, but my opinion is that you shouldn't pull a meg and just stick around. So some guy in New Zealand thinks it's funny to diss The Dark Knight (and another New Zealander doesn't). Doesn't affect you.
No need to worry. Both will be back.

transmogrifier

07-13-2009, 04:45 AM

Thanks to KF for the defence. A lot more articulate than I could be.

It's a bit of a mountain out of a molehill, really. I'm not denying that I make reference to The Dark Knight a lot, but those examples that Watashi posted...well, two of them were directly in response to meg's dismissal of said films, meg who is THE unabashed Dark Knight fanboy, and thus it was a shorthand way to establish that he was dismissing them too lightly (I like both Identity and Final Destination 2 a lot, so it wasn't as if I was choosing two crap films and claiming TDK was crapper [more crap?]); one was a response to a change in the thread title that indirectly stemmed from something I wrote in the Unacceptable Taste thread re: crocheting, so it was hardly a random jab; one was in a thread about the Oscars and in response to the chances of The Dark Knight winning, and the other was a random reference in a post otherwise devoted to making fun of my age.

So what am I supposed to do, Wats? The burden of proof is on you to show that I live to piss off the fanboys. I dislike the Spiderman series more than most, yet I haven't made a single post in the thread here. Why is that? Could it be that I in fact have no great design, but instead just post what I feel like when I feel like it, much like most people here. I'm sorry I don't like Pixar as much as you, but that's something you'll have to live with.

Also, the "spoiler" was simple conjecture on my part. I haven't read a single one of the books, and am very unlikely to. I have no idea whether I am correct or not. Still don't, now that I discover you don't know either. What exactly is the problem?

I can't promise that I won't mention TDK in a negative way again (sorry, w*, guess I'll leave to you to be the funny Kiwi). Such is life.

transmogrifier

07-13-2009, 04:46 AM

At least we can all agree that Harry Potter is a better series than Lord of the Rings.

No.

Winston*

07-13-2009, 04:48 AM

I should note that I think transmogrifier is in general very funny.

Dead & Messed Up

07-13-2009, 04:50 AM

No.

Search your feelings.

transmogrifier

07-13-2009, 04:53 AM

Search your feelings.

*searches*

Turns out I don't have any.

*shrug*

Dead & Messed Up

07-13-2009, 04:57 AM

Well, I tried.

::sips tea::

Sycophant

07-13-2009, 04:59 AM

I should note that I think transmogrifier is in general very funny.

I'll go ahead and back this up.

Ezee E

07-13-2009, 05:01 AM

trans let me call him tranny and only complained once. that deserves something.

transmogrifier

07-13-2009, 05:06 AM

trans let me call him tranny and only complained once. that deserves something.

You know what they say, don't knock it till you've tried it. Lesson learned.

transmogrifier

07-13-2009, 05:10 AM

While trans may get on your nerves, he generally reserves his jokes and snide remarks for the films, not for the posters. .

I would just like to say, I sincerely hope that this is understood. When I make fun of my pet targets (TDK, Animal Collective, Australia etc), I don't in anyway relate my dislike of the objects of my scorn with those posters who like them. That would just be silly.

Kurosawa Fan

07-13-2009, 05:17 AM

I would just like to say, I sincerely hope that this is understood. When I make fun of my pet targets (TDK, Animal Collective, Australia etc), I don't in anyway relate my dislike of the objects of my scorn with those posters who like them. That would just be silly.

Almost as silly as listening to The Clash on a regular basis.

transmogrifier

07-13-2009, 05:32 AM

Almost as silly as listening to The Clash on a regular basis.

Indeed.

No, wait......

Kurosawa Fan

07-13-2009, 05:33 AM

Indeed.

No, wait......

Victory is mine!

transmogrifier

07-13-2009, 05:39 AM

Victory is mine!

Given that it is probably scored by some callow indie hipster band who sneer at the very idea of caring enough about any one thing (except the dedicated search for the perfect harmonic vocal whine, of course) to even contemplate any type of conflict in the first place, it must be a very hollow victory indeed.

Kurosawa Fan

07-13-2009, 05:42 AM

Given that it is probably scored by some callow indie hipster band who sneer at the very idea of caring enough about any one thing (except the dedicated search for the perfect harmonic vocal whine, of course) to even contemplate any type of conflict in the first place, it must be a very hollow victory indeed.

I'll take what I can get.

Derek

07-13-2009, 06:02 AM

I agree trans is funny, but let's not overlook the entertainment value of Wats' freak outs.

transmogrifier

07-13-2009, 06:04 AM

I'll take what I can get.

*graciously concedes*

MadMan

07-13-2009, 06:41 AM

I'm going to side with trans here, even though I like TDK and have seen/enjoyed many of the Harry Potter movies. Wats needs to chill out every once and a while. Enjoy life. Smell the roses, man. Okay that's actually overrated. But still.

Silly DaMU, the LOTRs movies>>>Harry Potter movies. But hey Harry Potter 3 may be better than LOTRs 2. Yes I am too lazy to post the actual titles, and its much more fun to stick a number there instead :P

Oh and The Clash are awesome. Pure and simple.

PS: I think I covered everything here *shrug*

Ezee E

07-13-2009, 12:30 PM

I agree trans is funny, but let's not overlook the entertainment value of Wats' freak outs.
Could only imagine a ZBF freakout.

I guess he's the only one who has been banned from here because he wasn't proper age. Right?

Mara

07-13-2009, 12:45 PM

I reread the book this weekend. I'd forgotten how many of my favorite plot points are in this one, and now I'm sort of excited for the film. I'll probably see it in theaters.

lovejuice

07-13-2009, 01:03 PM

I reread the book this weekend. I'd forgotten how many of my favorite plot points are in this one, and now I'm sort of excited for the film. I'll probably see it in theaters.
my problem with book 6 -- and the series in general -- is that voldy is a weak antagonist. there has never been any moment in all seven books that i find him as menacing or awe-inspiring as he's supposed to be. except in book 2 which is my favorite of the series.

number8

07-13-2009, 02:12 PM

Clearly, the blame lies in Mara for bringing up crocheting in the first place.

Fezzik

07-13-2009, 05:01 PM

This is an absolutely amazing thread.

I came in here today hoping that someone had actually seen it and could give an assessment, instead, I got treated to a Match Cut sponsored version of Woman on the Edge of a Nervous Breakdown.

I kid because I care...I understand where Wats is coming from because I'm often accused of being overly defensive about movies I love as well - and I count the Harry Potter films as something that I look forward to.

But I see Trans' side too...he didn't say anything dismissive in his comment. He said he didn't like the series. The fact that he correctly predicted the end really doesn't say much - and I don't mean that as a shot at Trans.

Hell, I love the books and one of the biggest problems I had with it is that you saw the ending coming a mile away. I knew how Deathly Hallows was going to end before I finished Goblet of Fire.

And I wasn't the only one. The series painted itself into that corner - you know, no matter what happened, that at the end, IT would happen. Rowling couldn't have written it in any other way (especially after the movies started).

What I would like to point out, now, is the most interesting thing I've learned from this thread:

A lot of cutters post while drunk.

Thank you. :)

Mara

07-13-2009, 05:11 PM

Clearly, the blame lies in Mara for bringing up crocheting in the first place.

Oh. Do I actually have to read the thread now and figure out what I did?

Sycophant

07-13-2009, 05:12 PM

Oh. Do I actually have to read the thread now and figure out what I did?

Not really recommended.

Fezzik

07-13-2009, 05:39 PM

Oh. Do I actually have to read the thread now and figure out what I did?

It probably only lead to more confusion. Or drinking...

maybe both.

BuffaloWilder

07-13-2009, 06:09 PM

So, is Watashi always so angry and defensive? I mean - jeesh. :|

Ezee E

07-13-2009, 08:00 PM

So, is Watashi always so angry and defensive? I mean - jeesh. :|
Just on certain times of the month.

Ivan Drago

07-13-2009, 08:07 PM

Just because you have an opinion, doesn't mean it's worth posting.

You see, this is why meg left.

Sycophant

07-13-2009, 08:10 PM

You see, this is why meg left.

No, it's really not.

This is seeming less and less relevant every day.

http://www.whatnotstudios.com/shit/mc/nodramashrek.jpg

It's like I jinxed us.

lovejuice

07-13-2009, 08:20 PM

Hell, I love the books and one of the biggest problems I had with it is that you saw the ending coming a mile away. I knew how Deathly Hallows was going to end before I finished Goblet of Fire.

duh! it ends with "scar." everyone on internet knows that.

:P

Fezzik

07-13-2009, 08:44 PM

Just because you have an opinion, doesn't mean it's worth posting.

Wow...did he really say that or is this one of those gag "quotes" I see every so often?

Mara

07-13-2009, 08:47 PM

I hate all women.

Well, you're a poopyhead.

number8

07-13-2009, 08:51 PM

It's like I jinxed us.

I agree. Why the fuck did you make that?

Fezzik

07-13-2009, 08:53 PM

Well, you're a poopyhead.

Well played. Well played indeed.

Sycophant

07-13-2009, 08:55 PM

I agree. Why the fuck did you make that?

A. You said it should be the next banner.
B. Wats encouraged me.

Morris Schæffer

07-13-2009, 09:03 PM

Would Chuck Norris have made for a dang fine Dumbledore?

Sycophant

07-13-2009, 09:08 PM

Would Chuck Norris have made for a dang fine Dumbledore?

No.

Check Norris's last good (only good?) role was in Dodgeball.

Rowland

07-14-2009, 05:34 AM

So I saw this at an advance screening tonight, and was surprised by how far into horror territory this was pushed, even more so than previous entries, with some imagery that genuinely startled me. At the same time, there is a great deal of successfully realized humor here, as it probably has the most consistent hit-to-miss ratio of the series so far, thanks in large part to what are now fully lived in performances and Yates' deft touch, as well as the unexpectedly overt subtext of sex and drugs being introduced into the universe, the latter resulting in two of the film's funniest scenes. Yates also pulls off what is easily one of the most formally evocative entries in the series so far, outdoing his already impressive work in the previous picture with what is clearly a more confident hand. All that said, the romantic material never amounts to much, playing as mere set-up, while the dramatic material doesn't feel as convincingly fleshed out as it could have, leading to a somewhat disappointing climax insofar as muted emotional impact, though perhaps I should be thankful it wasn't all overplayed for maximum tear-jerking effect. Also, it felt like the shortest entry so far, which is obviously a positive trait for a series that has often felt lumbering even at its best moments.

number8

07-14-2009, 07:02 AM

This was fucking badass.

MadMan

07-14-2009, 08:18 AM

Would Chuck Norris have made for a dang fine Dumbledore?Serious answer: No.

My own personal opinion: Hell yes :D

Sxottlan

07-14-2009, 08:49 AM

I'll see this Thursday.

Haven't read the final book yet, so if we could keep the spoilers for that one to a minimum, I'd appreciate it. I actually just picked it up because it finally came out in trade paperback.

Just because you have an opinion, doesn't mean it's worth posting.

For posterity. Unbelievable.

eternity

07-14-2009, 09:33 AM

Helen Parr has a fat ass.

Boner M

07-14-2009, 09:46 AM

Let's all make fun of Wats while he's lurking so that he realises that nobody misses him and his plan backfires.

But really Wats, come back if you're reading this. I'm still a fan. I'll always forgive you. Always. Abandonment is the path of the weak.

As for you, meg, I have no such feelings. You liked The Dark Knight! Mehg.

Ivan Drago

07-14-2009, 05:54 PM

Woah - five of the SIX screens showing this in the theater here are sold out. Transformers 2 didn't even have 6 screens, and the line for that was out the door. This is going to be huge.

Mara

07-14-2009, 06:26 PM

This was fucking badass.

I can't figure out, from the trailer, how this swung a PG.

number8

07-14-2009, 06:30 PM

I can't figure out, from the trailer, how this swung a PG.

That stumped me after the movie. There's lots of references to teen sex, Hermione gets drunk, both Ron and Harry get drugged out, and there's quite a lot of blood. What the hell?

Sycophant

07-14-2009, 06:33 PM

Y'know, the higher profile (bigger budgeted) a thing is, the more lenient the MPAA seems. Hence why you get a lot of foreign films that barely have anything objectionable in them with R ratings and summer blockbusters that really ought to be R snagging a PG-13 or obvious PG-13s like this winding up PG.

Think I'm gonna watch this. May not even bother with 4 & 5 before I do.

EvilShoe

07-14-2009, 06:35 PM

Think I'm gonna watch this. May not even bother with 4 & 5 before I do.
But 4 has Robert Pattinson...

number8

07-14-2009, 06:39 PM

May not even bother with 4 & 5 before I do.

You haven't seen them? It might not be wise. They just jump right into it and make tons of important references to previous movies without any exposition. I consider that a good thing because they're not wasting the fans' time, but it really doesn't accommodate new viewers at all.

number8

07-14-2009, 06:45 PM

Also, I love how some people were chuckling and gasping at Harry, Ron and Hermione going to a pub for beer and drinking wine at parties.

Oh, Americans. You and your silly 21-year-old drinking age.

Raiders

07-14-2009, 06:48 PM

Aren't they only 17 in this though? The UK is still 18, right?

Sycophant

07-14-2009, 06:48 PM

But I haven't been able to work up any enthusiasm to see #4, so I may disregard your very good advice.

Dukefrukem

07-14-2009, 06:50 PM

You haven't seen them? It might not be wise. They just jump right into it and make tons of important references to previous movies without any exposition. I consider that a good thing because they're not wasting the fans' time, but it really doesn't accommodate new viewers at all.

I haven't seen 1-5 but I own them and was gonna watch them this weekend before I see this.

Wryan

07-14-2009, 06:52 PM

But I haven't been able to work up any enthusiasm to see #4, so I may disregard your very good advice.

It does feature a gargantuanly uncomfortable scene where the ghost girl always inhabiting a bathroom plops in on Harry taking a bath (while he's figuring out a clue for the tourney), trying to see around the bubbles and cuddling up to him. It's sort of awesome.

Sycophant

07-14-2009, 06:53 PM

It does feature a gargantuanly uncomfortable scene where the ghost girl always inhabiting a bathroom plops in on Harry taking a bath (while he's figuring out a clue for the tourney), trying to see around the bubbles and cuddling up to him. It's sort of awesome.

Okay, I'll watch it.

Thanks, Wryan.

number8

07-14-2009, 06:54 PM

Aren't they only 17 in this though? The UK is still 18, right?

Legal drinking age is 5, in private, so drinking at Hogwarts is okay.

At pubs, the minimum age of drinking is 16, as long as you are having a meal.

Wryan

07-14-2009, 06:58 PM

Legal drinking age is 5, in private, so drinking at Hogwarts is okay.

Sorry?

number8

07-14-2009, 06:59 PM

Sorry?

Yep. In the UK, you can give your 6-year-old child alcohol and you won't get in trouble.

Sycophant

07-14-2009, 07:03 PM

The UK seems to have this figured out better than we do.

Wryan

07-14-2009, 07:05 PM

Yep. In the UK, you can give your 6-year-old child alcohol and you won't get in trouble.

I had hoped it was a typo for 15, but the eternal beneficence of Wiki tells me you aren't foolin. So what's the justification for this? I see something about "Children under 5 must not be given alcohol unless under medical supervision or in an emergency" but what kind of medical emergency would come up? The old "Take a swig of whiskey, Billy, while we pull out this iron splinter--you really should learn to not play around the ovens at the railyard" kind of thing?

But that's for under 5. How bout 6? Are they really expecting many 6-year-olds to drink? Or is this again some kind of medical precaution.

In case it wasn't obvious, I think drinking at 6 is pretty well-nigh silly, even for near beer or the like.

Mara

07-14-2009, 07:14 PM

Aren't they only 17 in this though? The UK is still 18, right?

Yes, but wizards come of age at 17, not 18. And while Ron and Hermione turn 17 during the course of this school year, Harry won't turn 17 until the summer hols.

And yes, I realize that I'm a nerd.

Anyhoo, Hogwarts seems to have a relaxed policy regarding alcohol, since the kids have beeing going to Hogsmeade to get butter beers since, like, book three or four.

Hogwarts is a little more stingent about teenage sexuality, with alarms in the dorms against the opposite sex, and chaperones checking the bushes to throw out necking kids.

Hogwarts, by the way, is like BYU in this respect. The secondary mission of the institution, once all that pesky education is out of the way, is to pair off students into marrying someone "like us" instead of someone in the outside world. (How many wizarding couples met at Hogwarts? Almost all of them.) But, despite throwing the opposite sexes together at every possible opportunity, they very strenuously don't want you to have sex.

number8

07-14-2009, 07:19 PM

To clarify, I don't think the drinking age matters in terms of the legality of the Harry Potter universe, since obviously Hogwarts has its own set of laws that's not identical to UK laws.

But it's more a case of the kids being seen as role models by children in the UK and the US. I just found it amusing that the kids drinking it up and getting drunk in this movie wouldn't raise any eyebrows in the UK, but it would here.

Barty

07-14-2009, 07:20 PM

Why have a drinking age? Let the parents decide.

number8

07-14-2009, 07:23 PM

Why have a drinking age? Let the parents decide.

I fucking knew it. You're like Candyman, but with discussions of laws.

Barty

07-14-2009, 07:39 PM

I fucking knew it. You're like Candyman, but with discussions of laws.

Who's Candyman?

number8

07-14-2009, 07:51 PM

Who's Candyman?

:|

Wryan

07-14-2009, 07:59 PM

I fucking knew it. You're like Candyman, but with discussions of laws.

Rep.

Ivan Drago

07-14-2009, 09:05 PM

But 4 has Robert Pattinson...

Speakin' of which, how much do you wanna bet that there'll be a trailer for New Moon playing before this tonight? Just a thought, considering both come from literature phenomena of this decade.

....I should probably leave this thread right now.

MadMan

07-14-2009, 10:08 PM

Who's Candyman?http://www.culturesnob.net/images/entries/2008/03/candyman-3.jpg

Just don't say his name five times in the mirror.

Rowland

07-14-2009, 10:13 PM

ledfloyd

07-15-2009, 02:13 AM

i couldn't get tickets in time to see it tonight. will try again tomorrow.

number8

07-15-2009, 04:58 AM

Philosophe_rouge

07-15-2009, 07:58 AM

Most eye-opening moment:

The scene where that girl is cursed for touching the necklace intended for Dumbledore was so creepy it nearly gave me goosebumps. Talk about effectively setting the stakes, and it's all the more shocking for directly following a frivolous moment wherein Hermione stumbles about in a pleasantly buzzed state.
Lots of creepy moments, but this one got me. It was actually quite terrifying, my sister said after the film that I not only gasped but jumped in my seat.

I thought the movie was easily the best of the series, though I don't really like any of the other films, the fifth one I thought was especially bad. This one though was different, it deviates greatly from the novel, and it works out beautifully in terms of making the storyline more focused and coherent. Visually it's the most spectacular and relies far less (though not entirely without) scenes that are just meant to dazzle as far as special effects/magic is concerned. The set-pieces and scenery was just spectacular, I especially liked the scenes outdoor in the snow, which was blinding and seemed to really isolate the characters in a strangely poetic way. Even the acting was a huge step up on all parties. It was still a tad melodramatic, there are SOME acting missteps and laughably bad writing, but overall it's a huge step up, and I'm actually hoping the writer of this one and the director to return for the final, as they seem to have a handle on it.

thefourthwall

07-15-2009, 08:43 AM

Hmm...initial thoughts are "I liked 5 (and of course 3) better." The ending of this one was off to me

Harry just sitting there doing nothing sans a petrifying curse? no big fight with the Death Eaters? No mournful, haunting cry from Fawkes?

But, I like how so much was done with visuals that there was little need for dialogue. Also, Jim Broadbent is a smashing addition to the marvelous cast.

BuffaloWilder

07-15-2009, 08:55 AM

monolith94

07-15-2009, 02:53 PM

You put Tod Browning's Dracula in the high eighties. I must know why.
Yeah, it's at least a 90!

thefourthwall

07-15-2009, 03:50 PM

You put Tod Browning's Dracula in the high eighties. I must know why.

I answered you in the "I Spit On..." general discussion thread...

Mara

07-15-2009, 05:35 PM

Fezzik

07-15-2009, 06:49 PM

Wotcher, Harry.

HP&tHBP has become the highest-grossing midnight release of all time, beating out The Dark Knight by $4 million. ($22 million total for midnight showings alone.)

Link. (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118006002.html?categoryid=1 3&cs=1)

That's pretty damned impressive, I have to say. I honestly didn't think this series would have legs. Each movie seems to generate less and less interest.

Why is this one so different? The anticipation is high all over the place.

Mara

07-15-2009, 06:55 PM

Why is this one so different? The anticipation is high all over the place.

The cast is getting hotter.

Philosophe_rouge

07-15-2009, 07:02 PM

The cast is getting hotter.
I encountered a drunk conversation by some guys about this. It was really funny, something like;

"Emma Watson is really blossoming, not like, just her body but her face you know? Sure she has these great boobs, but it's really her face, like it's blossoming. Like she's becoming a woman, it has this glow, you know what I mean?"

It went on for a while like that. And I'm pretty sure it wasn't ironic.

Wryan

07-15-2009, 07:10 PM

I encountered a drunk conversation by some guys about this. It was really funny, something like;

"Emma Watson is really blossoming, not like, just her body but her face you know? Sure she has these great boobs, but it's really her face, like it's blossoming. Like she's becoming a woman, it has this glow, you know what I mean?"

It went on for a while like that. And I'm pretty sure it wasn't ironic.

If one had said, "She's coming into the fullness of womanhood," I woulda lost it.

number8

07-15-2009, 07:10 PM

I think Radcliffe will go places. Seriously.

Raiders

07-15-2009, 07:17 PM

Funnily enough, a co-worker of mine was exclaiming yesterday that now that Watson is 18, he can look at screencaps of the new movie and not feel dirty.

I then kindly reminded him primary shooting for this movie took place a year and a half ago--when she was still 16.

Pop Trash

07-15-2009, 08:35 PM

That's pretty damned impressive, I have to say. I honestly didn't think this series would have legs. Each movie seems to generate less and less interest.

Why is this one so different? The anticipation is high all over the place.

The core audience that grew up with HP are now in their teens and 20s and have cars and more disposible income. They don't have to rely on their parents to take them anymore who might have said "no" or "wait for the DVD" that kind of thing. My little sister being one of those people, and she went to the midnight showing last night.

Qrazy

07-15-2009, 08:38 PM

The core audience that grew up with HP are now in their teens and 20s and have cars and more disposible income. They don't have to rely on their parents to take them anymore who might have said "no" or "wait for the DVD" that kind of thing. My little sister being one of those people, and she went to the midnight showing last night.

Maybe, I think the core audience for the HP series is fairly broad though.

Then again I don't think that each entry in the series generated less and less interest since all 5 are in the top 100 grossing films of all time (domestic, unadjusted for inflation).

Dead & Messed Up

07-15-2009, 09:22 PM

Maybe, I think the core audience for the HP series is fairly broad though.

Then again I don't think that each entry in the series generated less and less interest since all 5 are in the top 100 grossing films of all time (domestic, unadjusted for inflation).

Worldwide grosses...

Philosopher's Stone: $974 million
Chamber of Secrets: $879 million
Prisoner of Azkaban: $795 million
Goblet of Fire: $896 million
Order of the Pheonix: $938 million

Not sure why, but it dipped in the middle and came back.

EDIT: That's a lot of money.

Watashi

07-15-2009, 09:29 PM

Wryan

07-15-2009, 09:33 PM

Worldwide grosses...

Philosopher's Stone: $974 million
Chamber of Secrets: $879 million
Prisoner of Azkaban: $795 million
Goblet of Fire: $896 million
Order of the Pheonix: $938 million

Not sure why, but it dipped in the middle and came back.

EDIT: That's a lot of money.

Usually happens with actual quality, with the nice exception of the fifth, which I really enjoy as well.

Qrazy

07-15-2009, 09:34 PM

Worldwide grosses...

Philosopher's Stone: $974 million
Chamber of Secrets: $879 million
Prisoner of Azkaban: $795 million
Goblet of Fire: $896 million
Order of the Pheonix: $938 million

Not sure why, but it dipped in the middle and came back.

EDIT: That's a lot of money.

Cuaron's adaptation is in my mind the least faithful and the most narratively flawed (a lot of important character motivations are excised) but also the best paced and visually interesting. But perhaps the lack of faithfulness explains the decrease.

Mara

07-15-2009, 10:25 PM

Needed more Luna.

You and Luna. Never change, Wats.

ledfloyd

07-16-2009, 12:03 AM

Very disappointing.

The puberty-discovering romance takes center stage while the more interesting Half-Blood Prince mystery becomes only a minor subplot that is only simply rushed at the climax.

Needed more Luna.
the puberty-discovering romance and the easy going humor and such is fantastic. but yeah, the half-blood prince mystery and the horcrux stuff is rushed. and the two big climactic scenes don't seem nearly as visceral as some of the earlier setpieces.

Fezzik

07-16-2009, 12:56 AM

Just got back.

I agree that the Half-Blood Prince mystery was rushed, but other than that...wow.

I need to stew on it more, but I feel this is the best of the film series by far.

Watson has really grown into a good actress, and Broadbent was amazing.

The camerawork was a highlight. The near black & white palette is going to look sooooo good on Blu-Ray.

As for the humor and romance taking center stage...they kinda did in the book too. Oddly, I felt it worked a LOT better in the movie than it did in the book. Good job by Kloves there.

ledfloyd

07-16-2009, 01:20 AM

Watson has really grown into a good actress
not just with her body but with her face you know?

number8

07-16-2009, 01:51 AM

To hell with Emma Watson. I think Daniel Radcliffe has just become my new celeb crush. Oh man, please tell me he's legal.

I grew up around gay people my entire life, basically, that’s possibly why I’m quite camp, and some people think I’m gay when I meet them, which I think is awesome. It’s always good to keep them guessing [laughs]. I don’t go on any blogs or chats or anything, but my friends are demons for them, and apparently someone said ‘Daniel Radcliffe is gay. He’s got a gay face!’ [Laughs] I really don’t know what a gay face is.

I'm an atheist, but I'm very relaxed about it. I don't preach my atheism, but I have a huge amount of respect for people like Richard Dawkins who do. Anything he does on television, I will watch. ... There we go, Dan, that's half of America that's not going to see the next Harry Potter film on the back of that comment.

He certainly got on our good side by telling us he wants to be back on Broadway in two or three years and is even taking tap lessons to get ready ("So far it's just a bit of shuffling... If I do a musical I want to be proper! Tap dance is so cool!"). But it was his completely adorable interaction with a terrified 11-year-old reporter from Scholastic News that won us over for good. Imagine half a dozen pushy TV reporters shoving their mikes in Radcliffe's face as he zeroes in on a little girl holding her microphone with both hands, voice shaking so much she can hardly form sentences.Radcliffe (to other reporters): "One moment, one moment. I will come back to you. [Locks eyes with Scholastic News girl] Hello!"
Girl: "Hey. I’m Danielle from Scholastic News."
Radcliffe: "Hello, Danielle! Pleasure to meet you."
Danielle: "This is an HONOR to interview you."
Radcliffe: "Oh, thank you. You’re very sweet. Thank you."
Danielle: "I’ve seen the first and second movies and read the first and second book and they are SO good. Especially the movies. I loved them, the movies!"
Radcliffe: "Thank you very much. You’re very, very kind. They get even better than that, though, so when you get time or when your parents think you’re old enough, you must watch the rest. They’re very cool."
Danielle: "Um, and I have two questions. How are you most like Harry?"
Radcliffe: "I think in the way that we value our friends. Friendship is very important in both of our lives. I think I have Harry’s natural curiosity as well. He’s interested in a lot of things in this world, as am I."
Other reporter: "Daniel, how…"
Radcliffe: "One moment, one moment."
Other reporter: "They told us to group together."
Radcliffe: "It will happen. One second, sorry." [re-focuses on Danielle]
Danielle: "How did Harry change from the first movie to the second? I mean, the sixth?"
Radcliffe: "To the sixth? Well, he grew marginally taller. The films have gotten a lot darker since that first film, so I think he has had to get a lot tougher since then. Thank you very much."

Watashi

07-16-2009, 02:07 AM

To hell with Emma Watson. I think Daniel Radcliffe has just become my new celeb crush. Oh man, please tell me he's legal.

He turns 20 next week.

number8

07-16-2009, 02:42 AM

He turns 20 next week.

*drops pants*

Quidditch time!

Skitch

07-16-2009, 02:48 AM

I think Radcliffe will go places. Seriously.

He needs a post-Potter American Psycho-type role.

number8

07-16-2009, 02:55 AM

He needs a post-Potter American Psycho-type role.

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix//2007/01_wk4/1RadcliffeEquus_468x331.jpg

dreamdead

07-16-2009, 03:15 AM

I'll be obvious and agree with Wats that the film needed more Luna. Her eccentricity added an odd charm to the last film, and the whole romantic focus felt a little too rote and divvied up without her comments and inclusion. That said, I was hoping for a little less PG-style content in the Ginny/Harry plot, which is unfortunate. There still seems to be too little fire in their relationship, and too much innocent affection.

That said, this film, though frequently so slick that it feels like a mechanical production, has some real artistry going on in its shot selection and angling of the camera. Some really beautiful tracking shots, especially in Hogwarts whenever Harry's following Malfoy.

Narratively, I agree with the others that the Half-Blood Prince and eulogy for Dumbledore, both in his final moments and with the Hogwarts' community's wands raised didn't feel led up to enough, leaving it lacking payoff. And the coda feels far too uneventful to fully work.

So chalk me up as another that felt the 3rd and 5th entries were far and away the best.

lovejuice

07-16-2009, 03:29 AM

umm...sorry if this sounds condescending, but didn't you guys read the book?

the half-blood prince in the title is, methink, a big red herring anyway.

number8

07-16-2009, 03:42 AM

the half-blood prince in the title is, methink, a big red herring anyway.

I never read the book, but that was my impression from what people have told me. And I think the movie did the same, heavily implying that it's Voldemort.

Skitch

07-16-2009, 11:02 AM

...or a gay jockey horse love role? :|

Mara

07-16-2009, 12:52 PM

...or a gay jockey horse love role? :|

You know it's from Equus, right?

Skitch

07-16-2009, 01:41 PM

You know it's from Equus, right?

No. Did I just do something really dumb? :confused:

Mara

07-16-2009, 01:47 PM

No. Did I just do something really dumb? :confused:

It give me a chance to sound pompous, so it's not so much a "dumb" thing as it is a "birthday present."

:lol:

Equus, for those who haven't read or seen it, is actually a really brilliant play about a psychologist and a teenage boy who has a hyper-religious erotic fixation with horses, which leads to a very violent and disturbing act.

Radcliffe freaked out his fan base when he agreed to be in the West End revival of the play, which then moved to Broadway last year. He not only got to curse and mutilate horses and simulate sex on stage, but he wandered around completely naked for several scenes.

So, if you're curious to google, you can find many blurry photos of Radcliffe's peen.

kuehnepips

07-16-2009, 01:49 PM

Equus, for those who haven't read or seen it, is actually a really brilliant play ...

Have you seen the 70s-film Birthday-queen?

Skitch is not dumb, just drunk (as usual).

Mara

07-16-2009, 01:49 PM

Brilliant career move, I think. Anyone can put on dirt-makeup and play a holocaust victim in an effort to appear "serious." It takes-- ahem-- huevos to prance around naked in front of a live audience.

Mara

07-16-2009, 01:51 PM

Have you seen the 70s-film Birthday-queen?

I haven't. (I heard mixed things about it.) I saw a live small production in London in '97, and I first read the play in high school.

Is the film worth seeing?

Mara

07-16-2009, 01:59 PM

Fezzik

07-16-2009, 02:14 PM

By the way, I saw the film (HP&tHBP) last night, and I pretty much enjoyed it. I'm not an ardent purist, but when they cut out something from the book I like, I tend to have an aw-shucks moment. List of those later.

The main comment I wanted to make was how interesting it was that Draco seemed to be in his own, separate film that was, like, Kafka adapted by Bergman. It was gut-wrenching and sad and somewhat profound, and it made me want to read a version of the books written from his perspective. He has really improved as an actor.

I'm curious to see what of the missing bits disappointed you most. usually, I can forgive such things as "the price of adaptation" but sometimes this series baffles me...not because stuff is left out, but because of WHAT is left out.