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Dukefrukem
07-29-2008, 02:13 AM
No not Wolverine... but what's this all about?


Production Weekly has an interesting blurb on their production notes and it's called X-Men: First Class, which will either be about the air travel adventures of our favorite heroes or chronicle their early adventures with the original lineup consisting of Iceman, Angel, Beast, Jean Grey and Cyclops. The series also had a lot of guest appearances by guys like Thor and The Lizard."]Production Weekly has an interesting blurb on their production notes and it's called X-Men: First Class, which will either be about the air travel adventures of our favorite heroes or chronicle their early adventures with the original lineup consisting of Iceman, Angel, Beast, Jean Grey and Cyclops. The series also had a lot of guest appearances by guys like Thor and The Lizard.

http://www.latinoreview.com/news/one-more-x-men-movie-in-the-works-5096

Ezee E
07-29-2008, 02:20 AM
No not Wolverine... but what's this all about?

Production Weekly has an interesting blurb on their production notes and it's called X-Men: First Class, which will either be about the air travel adventures of our favorite heroes or chronicle their early adventures with the original lineup consisting of Iceman, Angel, Beast, Jean Grey and Cyclops. The series also had a lot of guest appearances by guys like Thor and The Lizard.

http://www.latinoreview.com/news/one-more-x-men-movie-in-the-works-5096
stupid.

megladon8
07-29-2008, 02:26 AM
"X-Men: First Class" is a comic book series. I own that graphic novel.

I think this article might be a little confused.

Also, Duke, your first link doesn't work.

Dukefrukem
07-29-2008, 02:36 AM
sorry, i meant for that to be a quote

Dukefrukem
05-13-2009, 11:53 PM
Looks like X-Men: First Class is happening

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/x-men_movies/x-men_origins_magneto/news/?a=7495

Dukefrukem
09-22-2009, 01:01 PM
As well as the eventual New Class, then - whenever that might be - Shuler Donner revealed that she has been cooking up plans for several other mutant films. The two she named? An X4, reuniting the X-Men and a big screen outing for The New Mutants. X4, she said, had yet to be pitched to the studio, however.

http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/09/21/lauren-shuler-donner-on-future-x-men-movies/

Dukefrukem
10-12-2009, 06:03 PM
"I'm still looking to possibly returning to the 'X-Men' franchise. I've been talking to Fox about it," Singer said at a talk at South Korea's Pusan International Film Festival.

Yahoo (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091011/ap_en_mo/as_mov_skorea_people_bryan_sin ger)

Morris Schæffer
10-12-2009, 07:37 PM
X3 > Superman Returns

Though not by much if that's any consolation for some. :)

Dead & Messed Up
10-12-2009, 08:04 PM
X3 > Superman Returns

Though not by much if that's any consolation for some. :)

I...agree.

megladon8
10-12-2009, 08:44 PM
No way.

Superman Returns was a beautiful, powerful piece of work.

X3 was a passable action film and a disappointing end to a trilogy that could have and should have been so much more.

Dukefrukem
10-12-2009, 10:56 PM
X3 > Superman Returns

Though not by much if that's any consolation for some. :)

also agree. Superman Returns is low on the list of recent comic book movies.

Sycophant
10-12-2009, 10:58 PM
Superman Returns is the only superhero movie I've seen worth a damn since Hulk.

I'm being slightly hyperbolic, but they're the two best of the decade.

megladon8
10-12-2009, 10:59 PM
Superman Returns is the only superhero movie I've seen worth a damn since Hulk.

I'm being slightly hyperbolic, but they're the two best of the decade.


This is a statement I could get behind.

Spun Lepton
10-12-2009, 10:59 PM
People actually liked Superman Returns? :D

Rowland
10-12-2009, 11:05 PM
I don't particularly like any of the X-Men movies, even the highly lauded X2 which struck me as a polished clusterfuck with a didactic anti-discrimination (sub)text and some passable action sequences.

Dukefrukem
10-12-2009, 11:08 PM
I don't particularly like any of the X-Men movies, even the highly lauded X2 which struck me as a polished clusterfuck with a didactic anti-discrimination (sub)text and some passable action sequences.

X2 pissed me off because there was very little mutant vs mutant action scenes with the exception of the wolverine fight at the end. I hate seeing mutant vs human. I got my wish with Last Stand, but it ended up being way worse than X2. I still enjoy the first movie the most.

X-men > X2 > X3 >>>>>>>>>> Wolverine >>>>>>>>> Superman Returns.

number8
10-13-2009, 08:08 PM
I don't particularly care who fights who, as long as it's dramatic and exciting, which X2 was.

Spun Lepton
10-13-2009, 11:53 PM
I'm all for Singer taking over the series again, although I wish we could rewind a little bit so he could give the Phoenix Saga another chance.

Dukefrukem
10-14-2009, 12:56 PM
I don't particularly care who fights who, as long as it's dramatic and exciting, which X2 was.

To me, that's like saying let's make a Star Wars movie and have them fight Ewoks for 120 minutes.

megladon8
10-14-2009, 08:41 PM
To me, that's like saying let's make a Star Wars movie and have them fight Ewoks for 120 minutes.


No it's not.

The "X-Men" stories have always prominently featured mutant vs. human. These conflicts were just as (if not more) crucial as the mutant vs. mutant stuff.

Dukefrukem
10-15-2009, 12:03 PM
No it's not.

The "X-Men" stories have always prominently featured mutant vs. human. These conflicts were just as (if not more) crucial as the mutant vs. mutant stuff.

And Star Wars universe constantly has battles between primitive creatures; it doesn't work on screen even if it stays true to the stories. It's boring.

number8
10-16-2009, 08:07 PM
I think X3 proved that Mutant vs Mutant can be much more boring.

number8
10-17-2009, 01:40 AM
OH RATNER.


"If I buried the franchise how the f--- did they make a 'Wolverine (http://splashpage.mtv.com/tag/wolverine)'?" Ratner argued. "I mean, that's ridiculous. And they're making three other f---ing 'X-Men' movies. Mine kept the franchise alive!"

But Ratner's tirade didn't end there, as the once-rumored "Conan (http://splashpage.mtv.com/tag/conan)" director declared that there's simply no way to satisfy the comic book community.

"You can't make these people happy," he said. "I'm kind of the anti-Christ to these comic book geeks. Every single person that wrote s--- went to see that movie multiple times because a movie doesn't gross [$200 something million] unless people go to see it more than once."

"Every single person who said, 'I'm never seeing that movie,' they were the first ones there," he continued. "What are they concerned about? It's out of the filmmaker's hands. A film is a collaborative effort. How's a person sitting at home going to worry about how a movie is going to turn out to be?"


http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/10/15/brett-ratner-offers-heated-response-to-x-men-the-last-stand-detractors/

Dead & Messed Up
10-17-2009, 08:35 AM
I think X3 proved that Mutant vs Mutant can be much more boring.

I loved that sequence where Magneto lifts the cars and Pyro turns 'em into firebombs. Fun stuff, that.

My only problem with X3 is that it was too short. I would've loved another half hour or forty minutes; give all the plot threads more room to breathe, especially the Pheonix stuff.

The Mike
10-17-2009, 03:51 PM
This is a statement I could get behind.
Uh, what?

Guy in a black suit with pointy tips and a cape ring a bell? :crazy:

Sycophant
10-17-2009, 03:58 PM
Uh, what?

Guy in a black suit with pointy tips and a cape ring a bell? :crazy:

What does your mom have to do with anything?

Sycophant
10-17-2009, 03:58 PM
(I am sorry.)

The Mike
10-17-2009, 04:08 PM
What does your mom have to do with anything?

Well, even she knows how Meg feels about a certain man bat.....

bac0n
10-17-2009, 05:45 PM
I loved that sequence where Magneto lifts the cars and Pyro turns 'em into firebombs. Fun stuff, that.

My only problem with X3 is that it was too short. I would've loved another half hour or forty minutes; give all the plot threads more room to breathe, especially the Pheonix stuff.

That and more Colossus. Singer and Ratner both failed miserably with their unconscionable dearth of Colossusness.

megladon8
10-17-2009, 06:12 PM
Uh, what?

Guy in a black suit with pointy tips and a cape ring a bell? :crazy:


Of course, but I was simply trying to get at the fact that I wouldn't argue with that statement.

Hulk and Superman Returns are both fantastic movies, and comparable in quality to Nolan's Batman films...so I wouldn't argue if someone chose those two as their favorites.

Spun Lepton
10-17-2009, 06:20 PM
Superman Returns [is] fantastic ... and comparable in quality to Nolan's Batman films.

I'm not a huge fan of either of Nolan's Batman movies, but, no. Not even close. Lex Luthor's plan is ridiculously stupid.

Superman having a kid was the deal-breaker. That's got to be the dumbest development in any Superman movie -- and that includes that stupid "computer" in Part III.

megladon8
10-17-2009, 06:26 PM
I'm not a huge fan of either of Nolan's Batman movies, but, no. Not even close. Lex Luthor's plan is ridiculously stupid.

Superman having a kid was the deal-breaker. That's got to be the dumbest development in any Superman movie -- and that includes that stupid "computer" in Part III.


Yes, closer than close. So close they're touching :)

Lex Luthor's plan is ridiculous, yeah, but so was R'as Al Ghul's in Batman Begins. And even The Joker's plan in The Dark Knight is a bit silly.

Viewed as a direct sequel to Donner's first Superman, I don't see what's so bad about it. Luthor still has the same ambitions he did - the acquisition of real estate to begin his empire.

And as for the kid, it was a strong representation of Superman needing to ground himself in SOMETHING with which he must remain fully responsible. He lost Lois, and he was indirectly involved in the near-destruction of the planet because of his long absence. The child will keep him here and responsbile.

Even when they ditch the kid in the next movie (they will), it was a perfect thematic end to the story that was told in Singer's film.

I also thought Brandon Routh was absolutely pitch-perfect for the Kent/Superman roles. It saddens me greatly that he is not being brought back for the role.

If I had one major complaint about the movie, it would be that the parts where Superman is 100% CGI aren't too good.

Spun Lepton
10-17-2009, 06:33 PM
Superman having a kid is about as dumb as Jeff Goldblum uploading a virus into the alien mothership in ID4. One can suspend their disbelief only so much.

megladon8
10-17-2009, 06:56 PM
Why is Superman having a kid less believable than a man who can fly?


I personally had no problem at all with that area of the film.

And that's not just an opinion. Read the internet.

;)

Sycophant
10-17-2009, 06:59 PM
I don't get this conversation.

megladon8
10-17-2009, 07:02 PM
I don't get this conversation.


...what's not to get?

Spun doesn't like the plot development of Superman having a kid. I didn't mind it.

Sycophant
10-17-2009, 07:15 PM
Maybe it's because I'm not into the whole Superman mythos as a whole, but in terms of Superman having a kid, I'm like "why the hell not?"

megladon8
10-17-2009, 07:40 PM
Spoiler tags, dude.

And I feel the same way.

Spun Lepton
10-17-2009, 07:48 PM
Why is Superman having a kid less believable than a man who can fly?

It doesn't fit because it runs against the mythos that's already been established. Supes would have killed Lois when he orgasmed, and even if he didn't -- how the fuck would Lois survive the birth of a Superchild? It's just plain stupid. And so was Luthor's plan. Let's make a big rocky island that's usless, aside from making Superman weak. GREAT PLAN LEX.

megladon8
10-17-2009, 07:51 PM
You've seen Mallrats too many times, dude.

Where exactly in the mythos of the Donner films was it established that Lois couldn't bear Superman's child? Never, that's where.

Spun Lepton
10-17-2009, 07:57 PM
You've seen Mallrats too many times, dude.

I hate Mallrats. I saw it once in the theater.


Where exactly in the mythos of the Donner films was it established that Lois couldn't bear Superman's child? Never, that's where.

It doesn't need to be established. It's a given.

number8
10-17-2009, 08:10 PM
I feel like I'm back in 1995.

lovejuice
10-17-2009, 08:59 PM
I'm not a huge fan of either of Nolan's Batman movies, but, no. Not even close. Lex Luthor's plan is ridiculously stupid.
how can you not love his expression when he say "real estate" and look at lois like "bitch, do i have to spell it our for you too?" precious.

Qrazy
10-17-2009, 10:16 PM
As far as I understand the mythos Superman can't have a kid for the same reason that dogs can't have kids with humans. Superman is an alien. He doesn't have human DNA.

Dead & Messed Up
10-17-2009, 10:50 PM
Luthor's plan is stupid, because he eagerly describes killing millions or even billions. Apparently not recognizing that obscene levels of genocide tends to reflect poorly on a salesman.

R'as and the Joker, despite their differing motivations, at least are into destruction for destruction's sake.

Grouchy
10-18-2009, 09:03 AM
I don't get the people who think Brandon Routh was a good Superman. I mean, sure, he's better casting than, huh, Danny De Vito or something, but they might as well just used a mannequin for all his scenes.

Worst leading actor in any superhero movie.

EyesWideOpen
10-18-2009, 01:45 PM
Brandon Routh was a better Superman then Christopher Reeve.

Morris Schæffer
10-18-2009, 02:57 PM
Maybe it's because I'm not into the whole Superman mythos as a whole, but in terms of Superman having a kid, I'm like "why the hell not?"

And in that regard I'm like what the hell kind of surplus value does it add to the Singer version?

Skitch
10-18-2009, 03:25 PM
Brandon Routh was great. The kid was fine, I get both arguments though.

The only real crime is yet another Superman movie where he never throws a punch...that makes, what, three of the five like that? Bring on an alien villan already.

BuffaloWilder
10-18-2009, 05:30 PM
Throwing a punch is all well and good, but if there is a greater opportunity for heroics, like actually saving people, and in a grandiose manner too, then I'm all for that, as well. Double the points if you can combine the two.

Dukefrukem
10-18-2009, 06:03 PM
I don't get this conversation.

I don't either. Superman Returns and the Hulk versus Nolan's Batman films ain't the same fuckin' ballpark, it ain't the same league, it ain't even the same fuckin' sport.

Scar
10-18-2009, 06:05 PM
I was gonna say what Qrazy said.

I like Superman Returns, but the real estate thing makes me go 'huh?', and I just tend to ignore the whole science behind the spoiler stuff.

I find Ras' and Joker's motivations far, far, far, far more convincing then Lex's.

Sycophant
10-18-2009, 07:49 PM
I don't either. Superman Returns and the Hulk versus Nolan's Batman films ain't the same fuckin' ballpark, it ain't the same league, it ain't even the same fuckin' sport.

I agree, but not in the way most would assume I do.

Dukefrukem
10-18-2009, 07:50 PM
I agree, but not in the way most would assume I do.

I figured as much. It's you and Meg versus everyone else. :P

megladon8
10-18-2009, 07:53 PM
I figured as much. It's you and Meg versus everyone else. :P


Not really. Plenty of people feel this way.

I'd rate/rank the four movies like this...

The Dark Knight - 10
Batman Begins - 10
Superman Returns - 9
Hulk - 9

lovejuice
10-18-2009, 09:06 PM
I like Superman Returns, but the real estate thing makes me go 'huh?', and I just tend to ignore the whole science behind the spoiler stuff.

you guys just don't understand mad science, huh? wait till i finish my weather machine and we'll see who has the last laugh.

step 1: acquire land.
step 2: float wyoming.
step 3: turn south dakota into lakeside natural resource.
step 4: count the $$$.

The Mike
10-18-2009, 10:06 PM
Can we discuss the science of how much force would have to be behind a Lex Luthor punch to send a weakened Superman flying 20 feet through the air? That's my favorite SR argument.

Spun Lepton
10-19-2009, 10:02 PM
Brandon Routh was great. The kid was fine, I get both arguments though.

The only real crime is yet another Superman movie where he never throws a punch...that makes, what, three of the five like that? Bring on an alien villan already.

Seriously. On film, the only way Superman is any fun is when he's up against an opponent who doesn't need kryptonite to beat him. Bring on Bizarro Superman or Mixelplix.

megladon8
10-19-2009, 11:02 PM
I want Brainiac.

KK2.0
10-26-2009, 06:54 PM
I guess this is a bit old, but i didn`t saw it posted.

Singer wants to get back to X-men movies. http://www.joblo.com/singer-back-on-x-men I say yes, please!

I'm not a fan of Superman Returns but i'm ok with the Hulk.

Wryan
10-26-2009, 07:55 PM
Superman Returns is the only superhero movie I've seen worth a damn since Hulk.

I'm being slightly hyperbolic, but they're the two best of the decade.

We're not including The Incredibles here?

Dukefrukem
12-17-2009, 11:48 AM
Bryan Singer returning to direct First Class (http://movies.ign.com/articles/105/1055999p1.html)

Dukefrukem
12-18-2009, 12:42 PM
"This is the formative years of Xavier and Magneto, and the formation of the school and where there relationship took a wrong turn," [Bryan] Singer said. "There is a romantic element, and some of the mutants from 'X-Men' will figure into the plot, though I don't want to say which ones. There will be a lot of new mutants and a great villain."

Variety (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118012931.html?categoryid=1 3&cs=1&ref=vertfilm)

Ezee E
12-18-2009, 02:58 PM
I really hope it isn't Apocalypse.

Mr. Sinister might work. Just would need a change of his look. Couldn't imagine it working on film.

megladon8
12-18-2009, 05:16 PM
What's wrong with Apocalypse? He's a great villain.

Omega Red would be awesome, too.

I wouldn't be surprised if Hugh Jackman has a cameo.

number8
12-18-2009, 05:34 PM
I kinda loved the Ultimate take where Mr. Sinister is a Latino gangbanger and he worships "Apocalypse", who is just a face drawn on a bucket and a mop.

number8
12-18-2009, 05:37 PM
He was great because he found out Professor X's biggest weakness:

http://www.jdees.org/upload/userfiles/tyskater/profx.jpg

Ezee E
12-18-2009, 05:46 PM
What's wrong with Apocalypse? He's a great villain.

Omega Red would be awesome, too.

I wouldn't be surprised if Hugh Jackman has a cameo.
A giant robot looking thing? I just don't see it working.

Omega Red seems like a villain that would get dumbed down like Bane.

Dukefrukem
03-19-2010, 01:01 PM
The premise has compelling elements to it, Just doing younger mutants is not enough. The story needs to be more than that. I love the relationship between Magneto and Xavier, these two men who have diametrically opposite points of view but still manage to be friends -- to a point. They are the ultimate frenemies."

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2010/03/bryan-singer-and-the-xmen-together-again.html

Morris Schæffer
05-28-2010, 06:40 AM
McAvoy to play Magneto?

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/45273

Ivan Drago
05-28-2010, 08:32 AM
McAvoy to play Magneto?

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/45273

The look definitely works, but ehhh.....we'll see. There's something about that casting rumor I don't like.

Morris Schæffer
05-28-2010, 10:44 AM
or Prof X?!

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=28006

Morris Schæffer
06-09-2010, 10:57 AM
http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=28079

The Fass to play Magneto?

Dukefrukem
06-29-2010, 12:41 PM
Alice Eve (“She’s Out Of My League”) is negotiating to play Emma Frost in “X-Men: First Class.

Who's Emma Frost??

number8
06-29-2010, 01:36 PM
My favorite X-Men character.

Dukefrukem
06-29-2010, 01:48 PM
oh it's her...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bb/Emma_Frost_1_%28Tahyna_Tozzi%2 9.png

Dukefrukem
08-16-2010, 11:29 AM
new info on the cast (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/46153):

James McAvoy (Professor Charles Xavier), Michael Fassbender (Magneto), Kevin Bacon (Sebastian Shaw), Jason Flemyng (Nightcrawler's father??) , Alice Eve (Emma Frost), Jennifer Lawrence (Mystique) and, possibly, Rose Byrne (in talks to play Moira MacTaggert).

Ezee E
08-18-2010, 11:07 PM
Alice Eve isn't playing White Queen after all. Instead, it's January Jones. Perfect casting if I were to say it.

megladon8
08-21-2010, 01:01 AM
Some details from Bryan Singer (http://movies.ign.com/articles/111/1114975p1.html) (who is producing) about the production which begins filming this month...



--The two leads will be in their late twenties.
--Xavier will not be in his wheelchair, but we will learn how he gets there.
--He'll also still have hair.
--Xavier and Magneto will create the X-Men together.
--This is not based on the comic book called First Class but rather is "a new beginning" for the series.
--Director Matthew Vaughn is "technologically inspired" by the James Bond tech of the '60s.
--The costumes will be more "comic bookish" than in previous films.
--Neither Cyclops nor Marvel Girl will show up, but Cyke's brother Havoc will.
--Kevin Bacon will play Sebastian Shaw and, yes, the Hellfire Club will figure into the mix.
--Filming begins with Xavier at Oxford University.
--The movie will have a much more international feel than previous installments. (The shoot will take place in England and the U.S.) Other locations will include Russia (though they won't actually film there).
--There are other characters in the film who have not been revealed yet.

Ezee E
08-21-2010, 02:57 AM
Starting to like how this is coming together. Good casting and what seems to be a unique vision and approach.

Qrazy
08-21-2010, 08:29 PM
Am I the only one that finds it faintly irritating that Singer decided to do a shitty Superman film rather than finishing the trilogy in style, and now he's back doing a prequel? Bleh.

megladon8
08-21-2010, 08:31 PM
Am I the only one that finds it faintly irritating that Singer decided to do a shitty Superman film rather than finishing the trilogy in style, and now he's back doing a prequel? Bleh.


He's not doing this one, it's Matthew Vaughn.

Singer is just the producer.

And Superman Returns > X-Men and X-Men 3.

Qrazy
08-21-2010, 08:35 PM
He's not doing this one, it's Matthew Vaughn.

Singer is just the producer.

And Superman Returns > X-Men and X-Men 3.

Ah okay, I guess I care less in that case. And I don't really agree with your equation but my disagreement aside I think we may be able to agree that a Singer X-men 3 had the potential to be the best of all of the films we're discussing after the build up he'd given things in X2.

megladon8
08-21-2010, 08:37 PM
Ah okay, I guess I care less in that case. And I don't really agree with your equation but my disagreement aside I think we may be able to agree that a Singer X-men 3 had the potential to be the best of all of the films we're discussing after the build up he'd given things in X2.


X2 remains one of the best superhero movies out there.

The siege on the mansion is still a phenomenal set piece.

Henry Gale
01-18-2011, 09:22 PM
Finally, some evidence that this movie exists:

http://www.fusedfilm.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/photo.jpg

Dukefrukem
01-18-2011, 09:30 PM
Finally is right! They casted the third chick from the left too hot.

megladon8
01-18-2011, 09:34 PM
Finally is right! They casted the third chick from the left too hot.


No, that's the White Queen, she's supposed to be like that.

transmogrifier
01-18-2011, 09:39 PM
Am I the only one that finds it faintly irritating that Singer decided to do a shitty Superman film rather than finishing the trilogy in style, and now he's back doing a prequel? Bleh.

Seeing as he didn't manage to do the first two "in style", I don't think it made much difference.

Ezee E
01-18-2011, 09:41 PM
You can't make January Jones not hot.

number8
01-18-2011, 09:45 PM
Finally is right! They casted the third chick from the left too hot.

...What?

megladon8
01-18-2011, 09:49 PM
You can't make January Jones not hot.


They've certainly made her look boobalicious.

Henry Gale
01-18-2011, 10:09 PM
I was going to say something along the lines of "oh hai, January Jones" in the post, but I figured it went without saying since the picture was already there.

I guess the recent spoiler-y reports of Xavier getting into some sort of huge accident during a battle that cripples him and makes him go bald is backed up a little bit more by this. But it seems like Fox has also removed those leaks from a few weeks back, making it all hard to find again.

megladon8
01-18-2011, 10:14 PM
Is this movie supposed to be in continuity with the other X-Men films?

If so, the characters' ages are wrong all over the place.

Mystique is there and appears to be no more than 10-15 years younger than she was in the trilogy. But there's no way Xavier would have aged from James McAvoy into Patrick Stewart in just a decade.

Same goes for Magneto.


Oh well...I guess I'm forgetting that Wolverine proved if there's anything Fox doesn't care about with these movies, it's consistency of story and timeline.

Henry Gale
01-18-2011, 10:19 PM
Is this movie supposed to be in continuity with the other X-Men films?

If so, the characters' ages are wrong all over the place.

Mystique is there and appears to be no more than 10-15 years younger than she was in the trilogy. But there's no way Xavier would have aged from James McAvoy into Patrick Stewart in just a decade.

Same goes for Magneto.

Well, in the case of this, this film is meant to take place in the '60s. So if I'm remembering correctly, the first film took place in 2005 (the future!) so they would have had to age about 40 years, which works perfectly since Fassbender and McAvoy are both in their early 30s, while McKellan and Stewart are currently in their early 70s.

Otherwise, I think this is just meant to be broadly canon as a prequel to the previous films in the series, especially how (aside from Mystique) they seemed to properly leave out the characters that were noticably younger with Singer's first X-Men movie.

megladon8
01-18-2011, 10:21 PM
Well, in the case of this, this film is meant to take place in the '60s. So if I'm remembering correctly, the first film took place in 2005 (the future!) so they would have had to age about 40 years, which works perfectly since Fassbender and McAvoy are both in their early 30s, while McKellan and Stewart are currently in their early 70s.

Otherwise, I think this is just meant to be broadly canon as a prequel to the previous films in the series, especially how (aside from Mystique) they seemed to properly leave out the characters that were noticably younger with Singer's first X-Men movie.


But...Havok is Cyclops' younger brother.

I don't think Cyclops was even born in the '60s :confused:


I'm looking forward to the Wolverine cameo. Hugh Jackman discreetly visited the set for like 2 days or something, so you know he's going to have a scene.

megladon8
01-18-2011, 10:26 PM
I guess the easiest assumption to make is this: Havok is in the movie, and has been "fixed" to be in no way related to Cyclops.

Spun Lepton
01-18-2011, 10:27 PM
Am I the only one that finds it faintly irritating that Singer decided to do a shitty Superman film rather than finishing the trilogy in style, and now he's back doing a prequel? Bleh.

Very irritating. I was annoyed the moment they announced it. Partially because at the time X2 had topped my favorite superhero movie list and I really wanted Singer to give the Dark Phoenix story a good treatment. I was anticipating X3. Then he dropped out ... and both X3 and Superman Returns stunk. Actually, I haven't watched all of X3, but I've watched enough to know I wouldn't like it. Superman has built-in suck-factor, so there was little doubt before I saw it that it would be bad.

I have absolutely no interest in First Class.

bac0n
01-18-2011, 10:35 PM
Finally, some evidence that this movie exists:

http://www.fusedfilm.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/photo.jpg

So, I'm trying to figure out who the people are in this picture, left to right... Anyone know? I'm thinking...


Prof X (pre-bald-cripple)?
Moira MacTaggart?
White Queen
Satan
Beast
Havok?
Kitty Pride?
Mystique
Cyclops?

megladon8
01-18-2011, 10:38 PM
Left to right they are:

1.) Magneto
2.) Moira MacTaggart
3.) White Queen
4.) Azazel
5.) Beast
6.) Havok
7.) Angel
8.) Mystique
9.) Xavier

Morris Schæffer
01-19-2011, 06:38 AM
Magneto looks like Jon Hamm.

Skitch
01-19-2011, 09:34 AM
Why is Angel female? What am I missing here?

Morris Schæffer
01-19-2011, 10:49 AM
Why is Angel female? What am I missing here?

This is probably how the Starbuck furore started a bunch of years ago and then it ballooned into a full-blown hate campaign, only to quell when BSG fans realized that female is the new male. :)

EyesWideOpen
01-19-2011, 11:47 AM
Why is Angel female? What am I missing here?

It's not the Warren Worthington III - Angel it's the female Angel from Morrison's New X-Men run (Angel Salvadore).

Skitch
01-19-2011, 12:19 PM
Ah. Thanks.

number8
01-19-2011, 02:45 PM
Is this movie supposed to be in continuity with the other X-Men films?

If so, the characters' ages are wrong all over the place.

Mystique is there and appears to be no more than 10-15 years younger than she was in the trilogy. But there's no way Xavier would have aged from James McAvoy into Patrick Stewart in just a decade.

Same goes for Magneto.

You didn't know that Mystique is like 100+ years old? She doesn't age.

number8
01-19-2011, 02:52 PM
Honestly, the ONLY thing I'm excited about in this movie is Kevin Bacon as Sebastian Shaw.

bac0n
01-19-2011, 04:09 PM
Honestly, the ONLY thing I'm excited about in this movie is Kevin Bacon as Sebastian Shaw.

Interest just went from about 5 to 35.

Dukefrukem
01-19-2011, 05:02 PM
I hadn't heard Bacon was in this... My interest has also peaked.

Thirdmango
01-19-2011, 05:25 PM
Magneto looks like Gauis Baltar!

Ezee E
01-19-2011, 08:29 PM
Kevin Bacon as a bad guy is always a good idea.

megladon8
01-19-2011, 08:30 PM
You didn't know that Mystique is like 100+ years old? She doesn't age.


Yeah, I didn't know that.

I've never been the biggest X-Men follower.

Ezee E
01-19-2011, 08:33 PM
Aren't Mystique and Sabretooth related in someway? Or was it a love interest that may have spawned Wolverine?

megladon8
01-19-2011, 08:35 PM
Aren't Mystique and Sabretooth related in someway? Or was it a love interest that may have spawned Wolverine?


This is the kind of stuff that turned me off X-Men.

It's too much of a soap opera.

Combine that with timelines so convoluted that they made DC's Infinite Earths look straight-forward, and it's just not my thing.

That being said, though, I really enjoyed the Joss Whedon/John Cassaday "Astonishing X-Men" stuff.

number8
01-19-2011, 08:38 PM
It's John Cassaday.

megladon8
01-19-2011, 08:39 PM
It's John Cassaday.


Yes it is.

You passed the test.

Stay Puft
01-20-2011, 12:29 AM
I just saw that picture on RT and did a spit take when I recognized Michael Fassbender. I didn't know anything about this project before, didn't care to follow it or anything, and the cast is frankly baffling.

Watashi
01-20-2011, 12:30 AM
Fassbender was also in Jonah Hex.

Watashi
01-20-2011, 12:30 AM
http://bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/kevin-bacon-and-january-jones-xmen-first-class1-550x366.jpg

http://bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/x-men-first-class-cast-550x344.jpg

Can we change the title of the thread to X-Men: First Class?

Stay Puft
01-20-2011, 12:31 AM
Whoa. Substantial screen time? Because... I'd watch that.

number8
01-20-2011, 01:46 AM
Whoa. Substantial screen time? Because... I'd watch that.

In Jonah Hex? He was Malkovich's right hand man, so yes.

But please don't watch it.

Skitch
01-20-2011, 02:00 AM
If this year is to be used as a scale...Jonah Hex > The Last Airbender > Prince of Persia. Anyway...

I demand to know who's responsible for the title change, so I can rep the holy hell out of them.

Kurosawa Fan
01-20-2011, 02:06 AM
Did I screw up the title? Looks right to me.

soitgoes...
01-20-2011, 02:09 AM
Did I screw up the title? Looks right to me."First Class" should come after Jones' methinks.

Skitch
01-20-2011, 02:10 AM
Not one bit. Winner.

Kurosawa Fan
01-20-2011, 02:11 AM
"First Class" should come after Jones' methinks.

Ooooo. I'll fix it at once.

soitgoes...
01-20-2011, 02:12 AM
Ooooo. I'll fix it at once.
Nice.

Skitch
01-20-2011, 02:13 AM
I can't breathe. Thanks for turning around my shit day.

Stay Puft
01-20-2011, 02:13 AM
But please don't watch it.

But... I love Fassbender.

Hmmm.

Skitch
01-20-2011, 02:16 AM
Hmm. I was thinking: X-Men: January Jones' Breasts: First Class, but now I'm splittin hairs.

Ivan Drago
01-20-2011, 03:39 AM
Great breasts, but feel bad for her name.

Could be something worse though, like September Smith.

Morris Schæffer
01-20-2011, 05:45 AM
Great breasts, but feel bad for her name.

Could be something worse though, like September Smith.

I find that it rolls smoothly off my tongue whenever I pronounce her name. It reminds me of Indiana Jones and how I'm grateful they never went with Indiana Smith.

Morris Schæffer
01-20-2011, 05:51 AM
http://s3.amazonaws.com/coolproduction/ckeditor_assets/pictures/388/original/First_Class.jpg?1295486508

soitgoes...
01-20-2011, 08:41 AM
Great breasts, but feel bad for her name.

Could be something worse though, like September Smith.
I like it. Tons better than Tuesday Weld.

Sxottlan
01-20-2011, 09:05 AM
I'm intrigued by the idea of an entire comicbook movie set in a different era. I'm guardedly anticipating it.

And X3 was pretty good.

Also for the thread title: :pritch:

Dukefrukem
01-20-2011, 11:51 AM
http://s3.amazonaws.com/coolproduction/ckeditor_assets/pictures/385/original/xmfc1.?1295484280http://s3.amazonaws.com/coolproduction/ckeditor_assets/pictures/386/original/xmfc2.?1295484299

Wryan
01-20-2011, 12:49 PM
Nicholas Hoult as Beast is an odd duck. I like the guy, but it seems a little weird.

Great thread title.

number8
01-20-2011, 01:45 PM
Matthew Vaughn is very pissed about that picture.


“I freaked out on them yesterday. I don’t know where the hell that came from. I don’t think it’s a Fox image. It’s not a pre-approved image. When I found out, I said, what the fuck is this shit, and Fox is running around trying to figure out what happened as well. I agree. It’s like a bad photoshop, which maybe it was by someone. It didn’t reflect the movie. I was shocked when I saw it. I was like ‘Jesus Christ’…"

Here are a couple of actually official pics. (http://www.slashfilm.com/exclusive-matthew-vaughn-reveals-magneto-professor-xmen-class/2/)

Ezee E
01-20-2011, 02:18 PM
Yikes, Magneto looks so awful with that helmet.

Dukefrukem
01-20-2011, 02:51 PM
can someone please repost the pics for me. They're blocked by my work.

Morris Schæffer
01-20-2011, 04:04 PM
Yikes, Magneto looks so awful with that helmet.

I guess that begs the question: Is this so much better?

http://filmonic.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/xmen3magneto.jpg

Maybe it is. I guess the darker tones lend it menace, but perhaps the helmet's color is supposed to evolve as Magneto grows more evil.

Dukefrukem
01-20-2011, 04:08 PM
http://latimesherocomplex.files.wordp ress.com/2011/01/x-men-first-class-cast.jpg?w=600&h=376
http://latimesherocomplex.files.wordp ress.com/2011/01/kevin-bacon-and-january-jones-xmen-first-class1.jpg?w=600&h=400
http://latimesherocomplex.files.wordp ress.com/2011/01/james-mcavoy-and-michael-fassbinder-x-men-first-class.jpg?w=600&h=400

http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/22726/Two_More_Images_From_Men_First _Class_Make_For_The_Banner_129 5513567.jpg
http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/22726/Two_More_Images_From_Men_First _Class_Make_For_The_Banner_129 5513557.jpg

number8
01-20-2011, 04:11 PM
Vaughn already said that he wants the X-Men to wear colorful yellow-and-blue costumes instead of black leather.

Ezee E
01-20-2011, 04:11 PM
I guess that begs the question: Is this so much better?

http://filmonic.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/xmen3magneto.jpg

Maybe it is. I guess the darker tones lend it menace, but perhaps the helmet's color is supposed to evolve as Magneto grows more evil.
Fair point.

Henry Gale
01-20-2011, 09:10 PM
Fassbender's Magneto helmet just looks like it's about to wobble off of his head of he doesn't keep completely upright. Actually, looking at it a second time, it almost looks like a photoshop someone would have done if for whatever reason we saw a picture of him and the helmet released separately.

Is it weird that the photo of Bacon and Jones in the perfectly period-looking pad was the one that gave me the most hope out of those? It's the hair, it's the furniture... and those sideburns.

MadMan
01-25-2011, 04:32 AM
The cast and Vaughn being involved are the only reason I'm interested in seeing this. I skipped X-Men 3 and avoided Wolverine, but I did enjoy the first two X-Men movies.

EyesWideOpen
01-25-2011, 01:33 PM
Based on those pics, the director and cast I'm more interested in this then any of the other superhero movies coming out and I'm not a big X-Men fan.

Sxottlan
02-07-2011, 07:20 AM
So with no Super Bowl ad or really any advertising and with it supposedly opening in just a few months, I'm wondering if they're going to delay this to the holiday season.

MadMan
02-08-2011, 08:53 PM
So with no Super Bowl ad or really any advertising and with it supposedly opening in just a few months, I'm wondering if they're going to delay this to the holiday season.Damn, I hope not.

Henry Gale
02-08-2011, 10:35 PM
They've already done it with Rise of the Apes, I'm not sure Fox can afford to move another one of their tentpole summer releases to later in the year.

It really it starting to feel like studios are fine with just unfolding their marketing a little closer to release dates these days so that they don't have to spend money on promotion for longer. I mean, look at something like Hangover 2, that comes out at the end of May and is definitely going to do well, but they haven't released anything aside from pictures for it either.

Ezee E
02-09-2011, 12:16 AM
They've already done it with Rise of the Apes, I'm not sure Fox can afford to move another one of their tentpole summer releases to later in the year.

It really it starting to feel like studios are fine with just unfolding their marketing a little closer to release dates these days so that they don't have to spend money on promotion for longer. I mean, look at something like Hangover 2, that comes out at the end of May and is definitely going to do well, but they haven't released anything aside from pictures for it either.
It's a built-in audience. Show a good trailer in March to just build awareness, and promote in May, and everyone who would see it will see it anyway. X-Men goes the same way.

Henry Gale
02-09-2011, 01:06 AM
It's a built-in audience. Show a good trailer in March to just build awareness, and promote in May, and everyone who would see it will see it anyway. X-Men goes the same way.

Yeah, not to say we've seen too many movies use this strategy, but it definitely seems better in theory if studios are starting to realize how much more accelerated awareness of their marketing has possibly become with the internet and such things these days. Especially when it's coming out in a summer movie climate like this one wjere tons of sequels and prequels are coming out seemingly every week, tightening the window of time for needing people to know about the movie may be a smart thing.

Or it's also possible in the case of X-Men that the production is in as much trouble as some reports have hinted at and they barely have enough finished effects footage to throw together for a trailer quite yet. Of course there's no way of actually knowing, but I really have to wonder why something like this had to apparently shoot on and off for a period of five months and then no effort seemed to be given to promote the fact that it was even still on track to come out until that poster and series of pictures were released the other week.

Sxottlan
02-09-2011, 09:25 AM
They've already done it with Rise of the Apes, I'm not sure Fox can afford to move another one of their tentpole summer releases to later in the year.

Wasn't aware of that. It does seem unlikely that they would then move that one too, but I still think it's odd. However, I seem to recall not a whole lot of advertising for Wolverine either.

Henry Gale
02-09-2011, 10:31 PM
OK, so apparently we'll see a trailer tomorrow. I guess feel free to now ignore whatever I said about them waiting way too long to release something.

Also:

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/110209/X-men-First-Class_510.jpg

megladon8
02-10-2011, 12:44 AM
Wow, that's a good image. I like it.

Maybe the awkwardly huge helmet we saw in the previous photo is just like a "prototype" or something?


I'm really interested in what the trailer has to offer. This seems like it could either be one of the most ambitious comic book films in the next couple of years, or one of the silliest.

Morris Schæffer
02-10-2011, 10:42 AM
From the director of the deliriously awesome "Kickass," the only possibility for me is that benefit of the doubt must be given, and has been earned.

megladon8
02-10-2011, 05:07 PM
So...the trailer is supposedly out today.

Anyone heard or seen anything?

Dukefrukem
02-10-2011, 07:46 PM
So...the trailer is supposedly out today.

Anyone heard or seen anything?

Coming out this "afternoon PST"

megladon8
02-10-2011, 09:02 PM
It's kind of funny how angry people are in the FaceBook page (where the trailer was supposed to launch at 3PM) about it being late.

The Washington Post actually wrote about it.

Watashi
02-10-2011, 09:51 PM
Here's the trailer:

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It looks like an X-Men movie.

This could be a bad or good thing.

Henry Gale
02-10-2011, 09:52 PM
Looks fine to me, but I feel like not enough is actually there to get much of a sense of it. Well edited though, despite the music sounding a bit too bombastic and badass for how period everything looks.

megladon8
02-10-2011, 09:55 PM
I think the casting of Xavier and Magneto is pretty spot on.

Like Henry Gale said, we don't get much of a feel for the movie from that trailer.

Hope it's good.

Wryan
02-10-2011, 10:01 PM
Looks fun to me. I bet it'll be fun.

megladon8
02-10-2011, 10:03 PM
I look forward to watching Magneto pull a nuclear sub out of the ocean.

Ezee E
02-10-2011, 10:46 PM
Looks better then X3 and Wolverine though.

megladon8
02-10-2011, 10:49 PM
Looks better then X3 and Wolverine though.


Yeah, I'm just hoping that (unlike Wolverine) it's written by someone who actually understands human interaction to some degree.

Henry Gale
02-10-2011, 10:52 PM
Looks better then X3 and Wolverine though.

Well, if they couldn't cut together a trailer to convince us of that much, then I'd say this movie would already feel entirely worthless. The only thing they had to do was make me feel like it was more like the first two than those, so in that sense, they definitely succeeded.

megladon8
02-10-2011, 10:56 PM
I read an interview with Matthew Vaughn who said that the film features "tons of teen angst" and "will definitely appeal to the Twilight crowd."

Can't say that really appeals to me, but I guess X-Men has always had that aspect to it, so maybe he's making it seem "worse" than it is.

Dukefrukem
02-10-2011, 11:09 PM
Meh. Henry said pretty much what i'm thinking. Cut together nice. Doesn't tell us jack.

Sxottlan
02-10-2011, 11:34 PM
That... looks better than I thought it would.

megladon8
02-10-2011, 11:37 PM
That... looks better than I thought it would.


That's what I thought, too.

But I mean...I thought the first trailer for Wolverine looked good, so...

[ETM]
02-10-2011, 11:48 PM
That's what I thought, too.

Me three. And I thought Wolverine trailer was ridiculous.

Scar
02-10-2011, 11:50 PM
I know Wolverine is not a good movie, but I still enjoy it.

megladon8
02-10-2011, 11:53 PM
I know Wolverine is not a good movie, but I still enjoy it.


I just wish that it had more polish in almost all of its parts.

The effects are bad...and what's particularly shameful is how bad the claws looks in some scenes.

I remember one in particular, when he's at the old couples' farmhouse and he shoots his claws out in front of the bathroom mirror...they looked like they weren't even attached to him. It was a really bad job.

Scar
02-10-2011, 11:57 PM
I remember one in particular, when he's at the old couples' farmhouse and he shoots his claws out in front of the bathroom mirror...they looked like they weren't even attached to him. It was a really bad job.


Yeah, that effect was absolute horse shit.

Winston*
02-11-2011, 12:25 AM
I've enjoyed all of Mathew Vaughn's movies. I like X-Mans. I think this will be good.

number8
02-11-2011, 12:31 AM
They're really going to milk the Malcolm X/MLK analogy aren't they?

Sxottlan
02-11-2011, 12:36 AM
That's what I thought, too.

But I mean...I thought the first trailer for Wolverine looked good, so...

I don't believe I ever thought that. :lol:

D_Davis
02-11-2011, 12:38 AM
I like Wolverine more than any of the X-Men movies; it, at least, has a pulse. The X-Men films are some of the dullest genre films I've ever seen. Total flatliners. (At least the first 2, the 3rd is just brickwalled and stupid)

Kurosawa Fan
02-11-2011, 12:48 AM
Not enough January Jones.

megladon8
02-11-2011, 12:59 AM
I like Wolverine more than any of the X-Men movies; it, at least, has a pulse. The X-Men films are some of the dullest genre films I've ever seen. Total flatliners. (At least the first 2, the 3rd is just brickwalled and stupid)


I can't fathom how one could find X2 dull. Still one of the very best comic book superhero films. Exciting, funny, smartly written. I dig it a lot.

On the flipside, Wolverine's script is just...retarded. Not the actual narrative, but the dialogue feels like it was written by a 13 year old. All of the exchanges between Wolverine and Victor are just painfully, Batman & Robin bad.

I also thought it was a serious misstep to have Victor gallop like an animal. I know what they were trying to do, but they really shouldn't have done it. It looked really silly.

Dukefrukem
02-11-2011, 01:07 AM
X2 was dull. X3 was duller. Wolverine was dullest. The first movie is the only one out of the four taht held my interest.

Qrazy
02-11-2011, 01:22 AM
I like Wolverine more than any of the X-Men movies; it, at least, has a pulse. The X-Men films are some of the dullest genre films I've ever seen. Total flatliners. (At least the first 2, the 3rd is just brickwalled and stupid)

So what you're saying here is that you like the worst the best and think the best are the worst. Cool.

Ezee E
02-11-2011, 01:44 AM
Kind of hard to change up their relationship though.

Ezee E
02-11-2011, 01:45 AM
X2 was dull. X3 was duller. Wolverine was dullest. The first movie is the only one out of the four taht held my interest.
How so? #1 even seems like a rushed storyline to me, with attempts to cram all the beginnings in. I love X2 because they can just push the story at hand. And the beginning scene outdoes any other Marvel movie.

number8
02-11-2011, 01:48 AM
X2 is pretty much the only good movie of the series.

Scar
02-11-2011, 02:00 AM
I think Victor is my favorite part of the movie. But X2 is the far, far better movie.

Watashi
02-11-2011, 06:17 AM
X2 is pretty much the only good movie of the series.
By far.

X2 is such a great movie.

MadMan
02-11-2011, 08:13 AM
I've only seen the first X-Men, which was decent, and X2, which is a damn good comic book movie with a high entertainment value. I skipped Wolverine and X3.

As for the trailer, it moved this movie up my list of the movies I'm eagerly anticipating this year. I'd be happy if it was half as good as that trailer suggests it could be.

Dukefrukem
02-11-2011, 12:14 PM
How so? #1 even seems like a rushed storyline to me, with attempts to cram all the beginnings in. I love X2 because they can just push the story at hand. And the beginning scene outdoes any other Marvel movie.

Rushed the storyline in X-men? I believe they started the Phoenix Saga at the end of X2. Talk about rushing through stories to setup the third like the first two movies didn't matter. If that was how the entire trilogy was viewed from the beginning it was very poor planning.

I've said this before but Mutant vs Human fights are lame to me. I like it when mutants throw each other through walls, and off buildings. It fits more with their powers. Also, the most interesting parts of the series are the bits involving Wolverine. X-men had a huge focus on him. The rest of the series felt crammed with mutants. It was hard to care about most of them.

Rowland
02-11-2011, 12:25 PM
I didn't much like either of Singer's X-Men movies, and I never bothered with the third or the Wolverine movie. Vaughn is a better action director than Singer, so if I have any hope for this, it's for that reason. And the cast is pretty nifty.

megladon8
02-11-2011, 05:13 PM
So far, there have been 4 Wolverine movies.

This looks like it could be an X-Men movie.

D_Davis
02-11-2011, 06:07 PM
So far, there have been 4 Wolverine movies.

This looks like it could be an X-Men movie.

That's a good point.

megladon8
02-11-2011, 09:52 PM
I really want to know what's going on in that scene with Xavier and Magneto lying in bed together, watching Angel(?) strip to her skivvies.

TGM
02-12-2011, 01:08 AM
Watching this trailer, I'm suddenly reminded of the old rumors of an X-Men Origins: Magneto movie. I wonder if there's still any plans for that, or it's been completely scrapped at this point.

Ezee E
02-12-2011, 01:17 AM
Watching this trailer, I'm suddenly reminded of the old rumors of an X-Men Origins: Magneto movie. I wonder if there's still any plans for that, or it's been completely scrapped at this point.
Pretty sure it's been scrapped for this. As it is Magneto's origin.

number8
02-12-2011, 04:14 AM
Yeah, I guess someone at Fox decided that they can't sell a superhero movie about the Holocaust.

megladon8
02-12-2011, 07:55 PM
I've watched the trailer about a half dozen times now, and I think it looks surprisingly good.

Like I said earlier, it looks like the first X-MEN movie, rather than a 5th Wolverine movie.

BuffaloWilder
02-13-2011, 03:59 AM
This looks very, very good - but I have to say, I'm a little bit confused as to where this fits into the timeline of the previous film series. Seems like this kind of directly contradicts the opening to The Last Stand, if indeed it ends the way Vaughn says it does, and the whole of Wolverine.

But those suck anyway, so it's okay.

Sxottlan
02-13-2011, 06:45 AM
One of my main problems with Wolverine was how it seemed they were trying to make it on the cheap. It seemed an acknowledgement that they were appealing to a real niche crowd and didn't want to risk a loss.

Coupled with that or because of it, what really bothered me was the poor attention to detail. I was startled to find by the end of the film that it was actually set in the 1970's. Could have fooled me with the modern tanks and guns. That pissed me off more than Wolverine's gullibility or the young adult-level of dialogue and character work. The story itself was good. It deserved better.

It looks like they actually have faith this time in the idea of doing a comicbook movie set in a completely different era.

Morris Schæffer
02-13-2011, 09:01 AM
The cold war link is really cool and I hope it figures prominently into the movie. Yeah, I don't necessarily expect an X-Men flick to resemble Thirteen Days, but it might give a movie such as this some added heft, like there's something bigger at stake rather than two dudes who used to be pals and have begun fucking each other up the rearend.

megladon8
02-13-2011, 05:51 PM
My favorite "WTF?" moment in Wolverine is how he clearly sees and interacts with the young Cyclops, completely disregarding how Cyclops has never met him before when they first meet in X-Men.

Sxottlan
02-20-2011, 08:32 AM
My favorite "WTF?" moment in Wolverine is how he clearly sees and interacts with the young Cyclops, completely disregarding how Cyclops has never met him before when they first meet in X-Men.

I could honestly see Scott remembering that encounter more vividly than Logan would. He was just one kid among many. Although wasn't he blindfolded at one point?

I'd say more glaring was how Wolverine took on Sabretooth atop the Statue of Liberty and neither commented on how they're freakin' brothers!

Skitch
02-20-2011, 11:53 AM
I could honestly see Scott remembering that encounter more vividly than Logan would. He was just one kid among many. Although wasn't he blindfolded at one point?

Scott was blindfolded, Logan loses his memory. I was more curious how the Professor was there they whole time and didn't make any connections.


I'd say more glaring was how Wolverine took on Sabretooth atop the Statue of Liberty and neither commented on how they're freakin' brothers!

Logan lost his memory. But yeah. Only excuse there is as Wolverine's backstory was written after the X-men universe already existed, and Singer was working on making a X-Men movie. If that makes any sense.

number8
02-20-2011, 01:32 PM
Logan lost his memory and Sabretooth morphed into Tyler Mane. Come on, guys, keep up.

Sxottlan
02-21-2011, 08:13 AM
I forgot that Logan lost his memory.

Ironic.

MadMan
02-21-2011, 08:42 PM
Logan lost his memory and Sabretooth morphed into Tyler Mane. Come on, guys, keep up.:lol:

Comic book movies with inconsistencies in the story? Say it ain't so, Joe!

megladon8
02-21-2011, 08:43 PM
I still think Scott Summers would have recognized Logan in the first movie.

Ezee E
02-21-2011, 08:51 PM
I still think Scott Summers would have recognized Logan in the first movie.
After seeing countless amounts of mutants, they all kind of look alike.

megladon8
02-21-2011, 08:52 PM
After seeing countless amounts of mutants, they all kind of look alike.


You're a mutant.

Ezee E
02-21-2011, 08:54 PM
You're a mutant.
I am cinema.

megladon8
02-21-2011, 08:55 PM
I am cinema.


Mutants are cinema.

You are a mutant.

Therefore, your statement is correct.

MadMan
02-21-2011, 08:57 PM
This is madness. And we're not in Sparta.

Skitch
02-21-2011, 09:33 PM
You're a mutant.

:lol:

TGM
02-21-2011, 11:03 PM
I still think Scott Summers would have recognized Logan in the first movie.

Only four posts above yours:


Scott was blindfolded,

You can't recognize what you never saw in the first place.

megladon8
02-21-2011, 11:07 PM
Yes I know he was blindfolded, but Jackman has a pretty damn distinctive voice, and I'm sure people would have, you know, talked about the big burly mutant with claws who rescued them.

Then later he would have been all like "hey aren't you that guy with the claws who rescued me when I was a kid?"

And he'd be like "I dunno".

Ezee E
02-21-2011, 11:17 PM
Yes I know he was blindfolded, but Jackman has a pretty damn distinctive voice, and I'm sure people would have, you know, talked about the big burly mutant with claws who rescued them.

Then later he would have been all like "hey aren't you that guy with the claws who rescued me when I was a kid?"

And he'd be like "I dunno".
Just logical to me though. He's been exposed to many mutants all his life. He never saw him, probably just thought he was one of the many.

Morris Schæffer
03-01-2011, 10:46 AM
http://s3.amazonaws.com/coolproduction/ckeditor_assets/pictures/792/original/FirstClass1.jpeg?1298955738

http://s3.amazonaws.com/coolproduction/ckeditor_assets/pictures/793/original/FirstClass2.jpeg?1298955760

Very, very cool.

Dukefrukem
03-01-2011, 12:35 PM
Great posters.

number8
03-01-2011, 01:55 PM
COMMAS, MOTHERFUCKER.

Wryan
03-01-2011, 03:06 PM
Also, god I hope that's not the real color of those posters.

MadMan
03-01-2011, 03:20 PM
Sweet.

Dukefrukem
03-01-2011, 05:54 PM
Also, god I hope that's not the real color of those posters.

Better color scheme than:

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT-LvZnufEuv1YyNflRWXoHIqSlaKjV5C 9UoQidhhUo4-8bKEqscg&t=1
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/gallerypictures/5374L.jpg
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_7r4hodccyz0/S1D5q7caicI/AAAAAAAACm0/x8o1D6VJwTk/X-men+United.jpg
http://www.trailerpark.com/media/6309/xmen_thtr_lrg.jpg

http://www.impawards.com/2002/posters/bourne_identity_ver2.jpg

Morris Schæffer
03-02-2011, 10:54 AM
http://www.empireonline.com/images/image_index/hw800/49054.jpg

MadMan
03-02-2011, 09:21 PM
Whoa.

Dukefrukem
03-09-2011, 03:52 PM
http://s3.amazonaws.com/coolproduction/ckeditor_assets/pictures/904/original/xmfcbad1.jpg?1299685659
http://s3.amazonaws.com/coolproduction/ckeditor_assets/pictures/903/original/xmfcbad2.jpg?1299685544

number8
03-09-2011, 04:11 PM
Those are awful.

dreamdead
03-09-2011, 04:15 PM
Why the hell would they ever place their heads right by their crotch? Mine eyes...

bac0n
03-09-2011, 04:24 PM
So, Magneto gets ass, Professor X gets crotch. Interesting.

Kurosawa Fan
03-09-2011, 04:28 PM
Those are horrendous.

Ezee E
03-09-2011, 04:57 PM
Would've been just fine without the faces.

Raiders
03-09-2011, 04:59 PM
Those are the mockup posters for Terrence Malick's defunct adaptation wherein each of the X-Men sees through the eyes of their soul.

MadMan
03-09-2011, 06:25 PM
Would've been just fine without the faces.Exactly. I wonder what the hell the PR department and the people behind those posters were even thinking. "Yes, yes, we must have their faces peering out!" "But sir, they are placed in um, rather, interesting areas, and they look weird." "Just shut up and ship them out."

Wryan
03-09-2011, 06:35 PM
Did someone cut those out of construction paper with scissors too small for their club hand?

Henry Gale
03-09-2011, 10:15 PM
Unless there's an awkward theme in the movie about one's youth residing in their intestines, then those posters are indeed horrible. I honestly thought they were fan-made at first.

eternity
03-09-2011, 11:12 PM
I'm at a loss for how anyone let that happen.

Watashi
03-10-2011, 02:17 AM
I'm at a loss for how anyone let that happen.
People went through college, got a degree, got hired at a marketing agency, and got paid to make those posters too!

Morris Schæffer
03-11-2011, 10:58 AM
http://www.empireonline.com/images/image_index/hw800/49360.jpg

MadMan
03-11-2011, 08:50 PM
A cool screen shot makes up for having to see those awful posters.

Morris Schæffer
03-16-2011, 11:44 AM
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/48874

Comrades, whe ghef a rhoessian trajler for zhis piectjer.

MadMan
03-16-2011, 06:05 PM
Now if only I spoke Russian.....but anyways, the trailer was badass enough.

Morris Schæffer
03-16-2011, 06:36 PM
Now if only I spoke Russian.....but anyways, the trailer was badass enough.

Writing it is easy, look at my previous post. :D

megladon8
03-16-2011, 07:02 PM
I'm pretty sure those opening titles in Russian said:

"In Communist Russia, X-Men mutates you!"

[ETM]
03-16-2011, 07:50 PM
There's not much new in terms of lines in the trailer, the Russian text is pretty much what we've seen before.:lol:

Qrazy
03-16-2011, 07:54 PM
People went through college, got a degree, got hired at a marketing agency, and got paid to make those posters too!

More likely the producer gave the job to his nephew. That degree of fail is something only nepotism could achieve.

Spun Lepton
03-20-2011, 05:06 PM
Please tell me these are fake.


http://s3.amazonaws.com/coolproduction/ckeditor_assets/pictures/904/original/xmfcbad1.jpg?1299685659
http://s3.amazonaws.com/coolproduction/ckeditor_assets/pictures/903/original/xmfcbad2.jpg?1299685544

Dukefrukem
04-19-2011, 04:50 PM
http://static3.aintitcool.com/assets2011/newxmfcposter.jpg

number8
04-19-2011, 04:53 PM
Seriously, do the people who work design for this movie working off of a Photoshop how-to book?

Dukefrukem
04-19-2011, 04:57 PM
You love the lens flare don't you? ;)

Wryan
04-19-2011, 06:02 PM
You love the lens flare don't you? ;)

It looks like a pimple.

That's a step up from the previous posters...in the way a migraine is a step up from an aneurysm.

MadMan
04-19-2011, 08:39 PM
I don't recognize the guy who's all the way in the back, behind Rose Byrne who's also barely noticable, too. Lame ass poster-the one with just "X-Men First Class" and the X-Men symbol on it so far stands out as the best one.