TRON Legacy (2010)

[eternity]

;299233']Isn't it early 80s Jeff Bridges?

Stay Puft always looked pretty real to me, though.
Yes to both.

[Morris Schæffer]

Our old pal Harry Knowles reviews Tron Legacy!!!!!!

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/47636

[Fezzik]

;299233']Isn't it early 80s Jeff Bridges?

Stay Puft always looked pretty real to me, though.

The latest trailer makes it clear that CGI Jeff Bridges is SUPPOSED to be a CGI Jeff Bridges. That's the computer generated "creation" that Flynn says "turned on him."

I had a feeling it'd be something like that. Any hesitancy about the effects I had is gone.

[Mysterious Dude]

The latest trailer makes it clear that CGI Jeff Bridges is SUPPOSED to be a CGI Jeff Bridges. That's the computer generated "creation" that Flynn says "turned on him."

I had a feeling it'd be something like that. Any hesitancy about the effects I had is gone.
But all the other programs will probably be played by human actors. It's incongruous.

[[ETM]]

The latest trailer makes it clear that CGI Jeff Bridges is SUPPOSED to be a CGI Jeff Bridges. That's the computer generated "creation" that Flynn says "turned on him."

CGI Jeff Bridges in the computer world is not the problem. CGI Jeff Bridges in the flashbacks is supposed to be the real Jeff Bridges.

[Morris Schæffer]

The latest trailer makes it clear that CGI Jeff Bridges is SUPPOSED to be a CGI Jeff Bridges. That's the computer generated "creation" that Flynn says "turned on him."

I had a feeling it'd be something like that. Any hesitancy about the effects I had is gone.

But there was a shot in the beginning of the trailer where he's with his young son in the bedroom and already looked rather squonky.

Also, what Isaac says.

[Barty]

The score is, truly, quite awesome.

[Henry Gale]

The score is, truly, quite awesome.

Yup. I've listened to it more than a couple of times now, which I try not to do before I see most movies, but it really is just a top-notch score. It's exciting and effective even without the context of the scenes that go with them.

Just like with the cases of The Social Network, The Box and Scott Pilgrim in the last year or so, I'm very amused by how artists from outside of the field of film can sometimes come up with composed scores far more interesting than many of those from people who tend to be hired over and over in Hollywood.

[Barty]

Yup. I've listened to it more than a couple of times now, which I try not to do before I see most movies, but it really is just a top-notch score. It's exciting and effective even without the context of the scenes that go with them.

I'm surprised how nearly every track is engaging, thoughtful, and plain fun. Rarely is an entire score consistently top notch.


Just like with the cases of The Social Network, The Box and Scott Pilgrim in the last year or so, I'm very amused by how artists from outside of the field of film can sometimes come up with composed scores far more interesting than many of those from people who tend to be hired over and over in Hollywood.

I'm not that familiar with music that isn't classical or scores (lol), but I'm guessing many musicians tell stories with their music and harmonies and lyrics, so it's a natural fit with movies where they just have to adapt their sound to fit a visual story.

[amberlita]

Wow. mp3 download of the entire soundtrack on Amazon today. Downloading!

[Ivan Drago]

Waiting until I see the movie to listen to the score. But I have succumbed to curiosity and listened to a few tracks, and they are indeed amazing.

[[ETM]]

I just listened to it three times all the way through. Truly awesome.
In case anyone cares, there are two iTunes-only exclusive tracks, one Amazon-only, as well as two remixes out there, beyond the regular 2CD release.

[Sxottlan]

Just like with the cases of The Social Network, The Box and Scott Pilgrim in the last year or so, I'm very amused by how artists from outside of the field of film can sometimes come up with composed scores far more interesting than many of those from people who tend to be hired over and over in Hollywood.

I've been thinking that soundtracks this year have been unusually good. I rarely buy CD's and already this year I have purchased two of the soundtracks that you mentioned (The Social Network and Scott Pilgrim).

I'll definitely get the soundtrack to Tron.

[Morris Schæffer]

Just like with the cases of The Social Network, The Box and Scott Pilgrim in the last year or so, I'm very amused by how artists from outside of the field of film can sometimes come up with composed scores far more interesting than many of those from people who tend to be hired over and over in Hollywood.

Good point. Remember the amazing trailer scores for the new Star Trek? Michael Giacchino's actual contribution, sadly, was merely okay.

[number8]

Well, I saw it. I liked it.

I think a lot of people who are anticipating this are forgetting that it's supposed to be a goofy kids movie and expecting some kind of epic sci-fi. Those people will be disappointed.

I was gleeful in a Speed Racer kind of way, though obviously the two movies are miles apart in tone.

[number8]

Also, if you think listening to the soundtrack gives you an idea what a great job Daft Punk did, you are way wrong. It is not at all the same without them paired up with the images. I can't remember the last time I watched a movie where the score literally made the action scenes better than they ought to be.

The night club brawl set to "Derezzed"—My god. Olivia Wilde, Garett Hedlund and Jeff Bridges kicking fucking ass Matrix style in bright neon, intercut with Daft Punk in the DJ booth spinning and Michael Sheen in Ziggy Stardust mode dancing to the fight. Amazing scene.

[Henry Gale]

You kinda just made me way more pumped for this just as I was starting to feel a little unjustified in how excited I've for it. The reviews have been way more mixed than I was expecting, but I also realize just now that the reviews haven't compared it to Speed Racer as much as I may have liked or even pointed out the use of the score as often as they should be.

Opening day it remains.

[eternity]

That was pretty damn great. Michael Sheen deserves every award he's eligible for.

[[ETM]]

I think a lot of people who are anticipating this are forgetting that it's supposed to be a goofy kids movie and expecting some kind of epic sci-fi. Those people will be disappointed.

I'm expecting to pony-up for an awesome 3D visual experience set to an awesome score, and come out of it feeling I got my money's worth. If I get more, I won't complain. Thanks for reassuring me.

[eternity]

The beginning of the film has a disclaimer that basically says that a big chunk of the film is shot and projected in 2D but to keep the glasses on anyway. :/

[number8]

The beginning of the film has a disclaimer that basically says that a big chunk of the film is shot and projected in 2D but to keep the glasses on anyway. :/

Did you notice why? It's the same as Coraline. All the scenes in the real world is 2D and everything in The Grid is 3D.

[TGM]

Did Disney pull the original Tron off of shelves recently or what? I can't find it anywhere, nor can anyone else that I know. And we were planning to watch it before we go see the new movie. What the hell, wouldn't this be the perfect opportunity to re-release it and capitalize on all the people hyped about the new movie?

[number8]

They have a Blu-ray release planned, but they're waiting to release it simultaneously with Tron Legacy. So not until next year I'm afraid.

[number8]

That was pretty damn great. Michael Sheen deserves every award he's eligible for.

LIBATIONS FOR EEEVVVERRRRYBODYYYYYY.

[eternity]

Did you notice why? It's the same as Coraline. All the scenes in the real world is 2D and everything in The Grid is 3D.
I did notice. Made the whole thing seem like more of a gimmick than it should have.

[megladon8]

Did Disney pull the original Tron off of shelves recently or what? I can't find it anywhere, nor can anyone else that I know. And we were planning to watch it before we go see the new movie. What the hell, wouldn't this be the perfect opportunity to re-release it and capitalize on all the people hyped about the new movie?


I read that apparently Disney was worried about people seeking out the original Tron, disliking it, and then deciding not to see the new one...so they pulled it off the shelves for a while.

Don't know if it's true or not, but I did think that was pretty funny.

[[ETM]]

I did notice. Made the whole thing seem like more of a gimmick than it should have.

Yeah, that kinda sucks.

[eternity]

HuffPo critic just called Tron worse than Transformers 2 and The Flinstones. I'm confident in saying that this is my new Speed Racer, for better or worse. Hate on, people. It's okay that you don't know that you're wrong.

[Irish]

I read that apparently Disney was worried about people seeking out the original Tron, disliking it, and then deciding not to see the new one...so they pulled it off the shelves for a while.

This makes sense, in a paranoid corporate kind of way. The original movie wasn't well received.



HuffPo critic just called Tron worse than Transformers 2 and The Flinstones. I'm confident in saying that this is my new Speed Racer, for better or worse. Hate on, people. It's okay that you don't know that you're wrong.

Isn't Speed Racer garbage though? Are you saying Tron 2 is garbage? :P

[Sycophant]

Speed Racer's one of the best films of the last decade.

This is Match Cut, dawg.

[[ETM]]

Isn't Speed Racer garbage though?

If you weren't dead to me until now...

[eternity]

Isn't Speed Racer garbage though? Are you saying Tron 2 is garbage? :P
Speed Racer is the pop art masterpiece of the decade. If you think the first Tron is garbage, then yes, Tron 2 is garbage. It's basically the same movie except much better looking and funnier.

[Watashi]

This makes sense, in a paranoid corporate kind of way. The original movie wasn't well received.




Isn't Speed Racer garbage though? Are you saying Tron 2 is garbage? :P
Speed Racer is a masterpiece.

I've seen it about 15 times and it gets better with every viewing.

[Watashi]

I love you Match Cut.

[megladon8]

Isn't Speed Racer garbage though? Are you saying Tron 2 is garbage? :P


Actually I think the consensus on Speed Racer here on MatchCut is that it's pretty flippin' awesome. I still haven't seen it.

I think many people here consider it to be the Wachowskis' best work.

[Sycophant]

I love you Match Cut.

I've never felt more pride in this site.

[DavidSeven]

Indeed. Speed Racer is pure freakin' cinema. Of the "A" or "****" variety.

[D_Davis]

I still haven't seen Speed Racer, and I really, really want to. I'll watch it soon. I think it's a projector film, so I'll make an event of it.

[Watashi]

Wait. Davis AND Meg haven't seen Speed Racer?

What is this world coming to?

[DavidSeven]

I think if it was called Pixar's Speed Racer, but was otherwise exactly the same, it would have won awards and stuff.

[soitgoes...]

Yes if Tron turns out to be as good as Speed Racer I will be a happy man.

[Raiders]

I think if it was called Pixar's Speed Racer, but was otherwise exactly the same, it would have won awards and stuff.

:frustrated:

[Kurosawa Fan]

Consider me in the crowd that adores Speed Racer. If Tron 2 is of similar quality I'll be a very happy man.

[number8]

Speed Racer, garbage? That's like saying sex feels like amputation.

[Scar]

Speed Racer is glorious. Simply glorious.

[Ezee E]

Yeah, it's pretty good.

[Sven]

Yeah, Speed Racer is definitely awesome.

[/love trainin']

[D_Davis]

Man, I'd hate to be the guy who hates Speed Racer 'round these parts.

[number8]

Irish is definitely a non-ja.

[Barty]

I should probably see Speed Racer.

[Spun Lepton]

Speed Racer? Really, Match-Cut? Speed fuckin' Racer??

[Sycophant]

Welcome to 2008, Spun.

I forget, did you see it?

[Sycophant]

Do you remember when we had a Speed Racer banner for like 3 months, not because Raiders loved it, but because almost everyone else did?

Remember when Pop Trash joined and couldn't go two posts without trashing on Match Cut's love of Speed Racer?

Remember how (almost) everybody loves fucking Speed Racer?




http://whatnot.bombdotcom.net/shit/mc/speedracerbanner.jpg

[D_Davis]

It might be the most unifying film of Match-Cut.

[Qrazy]

Speed Racer is a horrible piece of shit.

[eternity]

Speed Racer is a horrible piece of shit.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v303/JTMosh/Gif/speedpaunch-2.gif

You're the viking.

[Bosco B Thug]

Speed Racer is a horrible piece of shit.
Phew, a breath of air! I thought I was sucked out into the empty vastness of outer space for a second, all I could hear is this loud vacuuming sound as I read through the last page.

I respect both opinions.

[Morris Schæffer]

There's something about that Speed Racer Banner font that is unspeakably cool and striking! I actually enjoyed Speed Racer far more than I had anticipated.

[number8]

Spun, Qrazy and Bosco are also non-jas.

[Derek]

Speed Racer is a horrible piece of shit.

All is forgiven, Qrazy. All is forgiven.

*hugs*

[Derek]

Speed Racer, garbage? That's like saying sex feels like amputation.

I'd say loving Speed Racer is like saying you love Toucan Sam cumming in your face while drowning in a giant bowl of Fruit Loops as you come down from a bad mescaline trip. But that's just me.

[Kurosawa Fan]

I'd say loving Speed Racer is like saying you love Toucan Sam cumming in your face while drowning in a giant bowl of Fruit Loops as you come down from a bad mescaline trip. But that's just me.

See? Even Derek likes Speed Racer.

[Rowland]

Oh yeah, Speed Racer. I kinda forgot it existed, but sure, it was pretty nifty.

[Spun Lepton]

I caught a couple clips on cable the other day. It didn't really do much for me, but I do have yet to see the entire thing.

[[ETM]]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v303/JTMosh/Gif/speedpaunch-2.gif

You're the viking.

I actually liked Fox's Racer X much more than his Jack Shepherd 90% of the time.

[Sven]

I don't know Matthew Fox from anything else, but his presence as Racer X is very strong.

[D_Davis]

I'd say loving Speed Racer is like saying you love Toucan Sam cumming in your face while drowning in a giant bowl of Fruit Loops as you come down from a bad mescaline trip. But that's just me.

This post made me cream my pants.

[KK2.0]

So... the film is good then? i´ve seen it in quite a few signatures and the ratings look good.

[Spinal]

Seeing it tomorrow!

IN 3D

[Watashi]

This is getting all sorts of weird reviews. I'm kinda expecting an empty-shelled visual feast of a movie. I'm trying not to get overly disappointed.

[[ETM]]

I think Ebert got it right - three stars, and he certainly didn't get any of the plot.

[Ivan Drago]

My mind is on the side of a wall somewhere.

[MadMan]

Seeing it tomorrow!

IN 3DThat's the only way to see it, yo. Well that's what the adds keep telling me. I'll be seeing it hopefully on Sunday.

I have yet to view Speed Racer. Its featured in the special part of my list under "Movies that Have Caused a Great Deal of Fuss, and Therefore I've Decided to Ignore Them For the Time Being." Very special, indeed :P

[eternity]

Critics for the most part are dead wrong on this one. Most of the negative reviews I've read also share a dislike for the original, which is noteworthy, because disliking the original is also kind of criminal.

[number8]

BAM. (http://www.justpressplay.net/movie-reviews/40-reviews/7254-tron-legacy.html)

[DavidSeven]

I don't know Matthew Fox from anything else, but his presence as Racer X is very strong.

Fox is underrated as all heck.

Edit: They started writing his TV character ultra-shrill, which is when I stopped watching, but his performance in "Through the Looking Glass" is stellar and worthy of a feature film (though it's basically a feature in itself).

[number8]

HIS BEARD IS ACTING.

[DavidSeven]

HIS BEARD IS ACTING.

Nope, but it's a nice touch.

[monolith94]

Well, I saw it. I liked it.

I think a lot of people who are anticipating this are forgetting that it's supposed to be a goofy kids movie and expecting some kind of epic sci-fi. Those people will be disappointed.

I was gleeful in a Speed Racer kind of way, though obviously the two movies are miles apart in tone.

All this week I've been worried about this movie, hearing negatives about the story... and then you go and give me hope. :pritch:

[Watashi]

Yeah, 8's thoughts mirror my own.

There's lots of good stuff in here to recommend. All these critics that are spewing immense hatred on this film are pathetic. Worse than Transformers 2? What the fuck?

[[ETM]]

You have to know how to read the reviews. I'm personally liking the 50%-ish Tomatometer, sounds about right.

[number8]

I wish I was on the Tomatometer. My review would help a lick.

[[ETM]]

I wish I was on the Tomatometer. My review would help a lick.

Looking at some who are, it is quite bewildering that you aren't. Can you get on it somehow?

[bac0n]

;310421']You have to know how to read the reviews. I'm personally liking the 50%-ish Tomatometer, sounds about right.

Having seen it, I would concur. An enjoyable 50%, though.

[Sxottlan]

I really enjoyed this.

I'll admit I was one of those who was kind of expecting something really deep and epic. I was able to pull back a bit on my expectations of this in the last week.

Ye gods! That music!

[Watashi]

Hey Ary or Zach, during the arena scenes where everyone was shouting, did you have a goofy smile on your face and say, "oh yeah, I'm in this scene".

[number8]

;310426']Looking at some who are, it is quite bewildering that you aren't. Can you get on it somehow?

I've applied before. What it is is that you have to be on a critics society to be eligible. The reason why these nobodies are on there is because they're from some small town where the local film critics society would accept anybody or they got on the Online Film Critics Society before they tightened up membership. Me, there's no way the NYFCC would let me in.

[number8]

Hey Ary or Zach, during the arena scenes where everyone was shouting, did you have a goofy smile on your face and say, "oh yeah, I'm in this scene".

Yes.

[Spinal]

Boy, I feel silly for expecting this to be good.

[Spinal]

;310183']I think Ebert got it right - three stars, and he certainly didn't get any of the plot.

Well, he's certainly not alone. I thought it was pretty incoherent.

[Kurosawa Fan]

Boy, I feel silly for expecting this to be good.

:lol:

[Spinal]

This film could have used a hilarious, adorable monkey.

My son said he liked it. But he also thought it was set in a technologically advanced future.

[Watashi]

:lol:

Haven't you been anticipating this movie ever since you saw the original?

If you liked the first film, I can't see you not liking the sequel.

[Kurosawa Fan]

Oh, I'm very much looking forward to this, and am expecting to like it. I just found his comment funny.

[Ivan Drago]

Ye gods! That music!

It makes doing laundry and other chores epic.

[Spinal]

Anyone else catch the significance of "Separate Ways" playing in the arcade? I'm pretty sure it's because of this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journey_(arcade_game)), another game released by the folks who created the TRON arcade game.

[Kurosawa Fan]

This is my favorite part of that link:


The photo technology was originally to be used in another game, which would take photos for the high scores. However, the game in question failed location testing when one player flashed the camera.


As much as I hate people, sometimes I love their predictability.

[Spinal]

Yeah, that's awesome.

The IMDb trivia page reminds me that Journey music appeared in the original TRON. I had forgotten that. Although "Separate Ways" is the song that was featured in the arcade game, so there may still be a connection.

[eternity]

Hey Ary or Zach, during the arena scenes where everyone was shouting, did you have a goofy smile on your face and say, "oh yeah, I'm in this scene".
My little brother kept tapping my shoulder and whispering "OH MY GOD THAT'S US!"

So yeah, I smiled a bunch.

[Spinal]

My son recognized Daft Punk in the club scene. I was filled with pride.

[eternity]

My son recognized Daft Punk in the club scene. I was filled with pride.
End of Line is one hell of a track. Made the club scene much better than it would have been otherwise.

[Spinal]

End of Line is one hell of a track. Made the club scene much better than it would have been otherwise.

Definitely agree. I think it was the highlight of the score for me.

[Derek]

My son recognized Daft Punk in the club scene. I was filled with pride.

The part where they nodded to each other before changing tunes for the fight scene was the highlight of the movie.

This wasn't particularly good, and god knows it certainly wasn't coherent storytelling, but as pure visual spectacle, ie when the film just shuts up and reduces its characters to neon blurs and scintillating pixels, I was surprised how enjoyable it was. Unfortunately, it doesn't do it enough, but that, along with some amusing and surprising idiosyncracies, is just enough to give it the pass.

And the music was fine, but this is the weakest stuff Daft Punk has ever put out, especially when considered as a standalone album.

[Spinal]

This wasn't particularly good, and god knows it certainly wasn't coherent storytelling, but as pure visual spectacle, ie when the film just shuts up and reduces its characters to neon blurs and scintillating pixels, I was surprised how enjoyable it was.

I actually agree with this somewhat. I liked the disc-tossing battles and how they were updated. I liked the surprise of having circular motion in the light cycle battles. There just wasn't nearly enough action for me.

[Ivan Drago]

End of Line is one hell of a track. Made the club scene much better than it would have been otherwise.

While the whole score is godly, my favorite tracks are End of Line, Derezzed, the end titles, Nocturna, Adagio for TRON, The Grid and Son of Flynn.

[MadMan]

I forgot to ask if I should even bother to see the original before viewing this. I might do it, anyways, but I can't imagine it being too utterly important for me to understand the sequel.

[Morris Schæffer]

Okay,this is some trivia. Original Tron composer Wendy Carlos was originally a man called Walter Carlos. I always did find it odd that there was a female composer working in the biz.

[TGM]

Surpassed my every expectation (though the 3D was all but non-existant). IMO, it's one of the absolute best of the year, though I can definitely see how it's getting mixed reactions. Of the people I went with, I was among those who loved it. Not everyone was as big a fan, however.

[Mr. Pink]

I liked it well enough, but I'm not sure how much of that was due to nostalgia/love for the original. Excellent visuals, but painfully boring, corny, and sleep-inducing exposition dampened my enjoyment of it. Still, my general love for the universe was enough to walk away feeling mostly satisfied.

But I still think the Zeus character was fucking stupid.

[Spinal]

I think the film would have probably worked better without dialogue. Is there a single idea in this film that anyone speaks aloud that is worth hearing? Is there a single bit of exposition that doesn't make things more muddled and confused? Seriously, just turn up the Daft Punk so I can hear it better and stop the actors from talking. Let me watch the design and the effects and the sexy ladies in tight bodysuits. Any plot details I come up with in my head have got to make more sense than what comes through in the screenplay.

[Thirdmango]

I hated the first Tron, so much so that I stopped watching halfway into it so I probably missed the best parts. So I didn't go about trying to watch it again before watching this one.

Music was awesome, visuals were awesome, some of the action was awesome, Olivia Wilde was super attractive compared to her not being as attractive in House. The movie needed less story and to replace it with more action. But as I said, only some of the action was awesome.

I didn't like the airplane scene. One of the things which broke both the airplane scene and the biking scene for me was that they had guns. I wish they had done it without bullets and only been able to use their ray following ship things, then it would require a lot more awesome.

[Thirdmango]

Also about the ending:

Is it just me or did the entire last half of the movie feel like it was building up to another sequel? It just felt like they were going to make it through the portal and set up another movie. But then suddenly it ended and it was a decently satisfying ending even though they only brought up the sun thing like 10 minutes before it happened. I think it might be because they had Cillian Murphy at the beginning of the movie and I totally expected him to do a lot more since they left him very open ended.

[Fezzik]

I enjoyed it as a visual spectacle and loved the score, but overall it fell flat.

I agree it needed more pretty pictures and sequences and less dialogue.

It was...ok. A mild 'yay' as it were.

I agree with something TGM said at the theater, though....

I want to be able to download my own Olivia Wilde.

[megladon8]

I have to say, so many people saying this movie was boring is really eliminating any desire I had to see it.

[eternity]

I think the film would have probably worked better without dialogue. Is there a single idea in this film that anyone speaks aloud that is worth hearing? Is there a single bit of exposition that doesn't make things more muddled and confused? Seriously, just turn up the Daft Punk so I can hear it better and stop the actors from talking. Let me watch the design and the effects and the sexy ladies in tight bodysuits. Any plot details I come up with in my head have got to make more sense than what comes through in the screenplay.They could have reduced the dialogue to just Jeff Bridges and Michael Sheen talking to themselves. The highlight of the film for me was everything they would say.

[Henry Gale]

Ok now... I don't want to say anything too hyperbolic that I may not feel the same way about later, and I don't want to have my opinion on it exist as something too strong that causes me to have to defend it ongoing, because it's not a flawless movie. But I gotta say, as it is, I don't feel too uncomfortable with thinking this may have been the most entertaining film of the year for me. Strictly on a level of a movie delivering immediate thrills and executing a series of intensely exciting sequences, all while maintaining an effective and oddly beautiful atmosphere; I can't think of too many better big-buget CG-heavy actioners that have done the same for me in recent years. That Wachowski racing movie comes to mind, though.

I'm going to feel weird when I'm the only person in existence to have it hovering around my top ten list. But at the same time, the amount of enjoyment I got from it is absolutely enough for me not to be too concerned about how or why anyone didn't like it too. The movie's main priority seems to be it just wanting to be really, really cool. And as it is, to my mind and senses, it achieves that goal by being as awesome as I could have imagined.

[B-side]

This was better than I was expecting. It's jam-packed with ideas, which runs absolutely contrary to what seemingly every one of its detractors claims as one of its biggest faults. Maybe it's just me, but I thought this was one of the more intelligent blockbusters I've seen in a long time. I haven't seen Tron, but this whole premise seems more relevant now than ever with the WikiLeaks scandal raising debates regarding freedom of information and the popularity of videogames and simulated worlds being higher than ever and constantly growing and becoming more and more interactive and "real." Allusions to the Holocaust abound with Clu being the Hitler-esque figure seeking a perfect race and "purging" the imperfections, leaving Quorra as our stand-in Jewish, intellectually-curious survivor. Her "race," along with Kevin Flynn, being those who seek knowledge and understanding, thus they are the good guys. Flynn is a sort of philosopher with a flawed philosophy carried out by his digital twin creating the duality that drives the film's drama. Flynn must absorb Clu and take responsibility for his actions, which includes unconsciously abandoning his son.

The future brings with it yet more surveillance as symbolically shown via the several shots through eye-like objects and the Microsoft/Apple monopoly's oversight, and the gladiatorial games nature of The Grid sees gaming as a life or death sport. News is now instantaneous as is evidenced by the boardroom meeting at ENCOM. The CEO slyly takes the aforementioned real life monopoly's down a peg with a remark about operating systems being essentially identical but branded with a different number. All that said, it's still a bit jumbled and heavy-handed. Musings on the sun are awfully saccharine, and Michael Sheen's performance and character were goofy as hell, and not really in a good way. Sam is a vacuous bag of one-liners, so his relationship with his father isn't nearly as emotionally charged as it should've been.

[eternity]

Everything is good in regards to Michael Sheen. Everything, bro.

[B-side]

Everything is good in regards to Michael Sheen. Everything, bro.

This Dude cannot abide by that opinion, Tony Bro-mo.

[[ETM]]

Michael Sheen can't be not awesome, by definition. I'll never watch him in Twilight, but I'm certain he's awesome there as well.

[ciaoelor]

I haven't watched the whole movie, but I work at a movie theater, and sometimes I'm an Usher, and I have to say that the last scene of

Olivia Wilde riding on the back of the motorcycle with that awestruck expression in her eyes

is just AWESOME.

Raiders - edited to add spoiler tags

[number8]

That is a big spoiler.

[eternity]

;312315']Michael Sheen can't be not awesome, by definition. I'll never watch him in Twilight, but I'm certain he's awesome there as well.

He's the best thing about New Moon. He practically steals the entire climax of the movie, and it makes the thing work so much better than it ever should.

[lovejuice]

I enjoy it, but it's curiously unambitious. On a plus side, in this age when every fantasy and sci-fi builds itself into yet another franchise, a self-contained movie is in fact refreshing. It's a lot like an 80s movie in that respect. The story and many characters are there just to showcase the technology.

One question: I watched the original long time ago, but why is this movie called "Tron"? He seems to be a peripheral character.

[number8]

Because the original movie was called Tron and they had to call this one Tron too.

[lovejuice]

Because the original movie was called Tron and they had to call this one Tron too.
is he an important character in that one?

[number8]

is he an important character in that one?

Very. He was the main security program in the Grid and was technically the hero of the story, though not the main character.

Think Arnold's T-800 in T2.

[lovejuice]

Very. He was the main security program in the Grid and was technically the hero of the story, though not the main character.

Think Arnold's T-800 in T2.
I see. My biggest beef is that the movie introduces many characters, but it doesn't bother to take them anywhere. More of Tron and Zeus and less of Sam will do this movie a lot of good.

[Chac Mool]

Stunning visual and aural production: the cinematography, costumes/hairstyles/make-up and pulsing soundtrack carry the film, and are orchestrated with a panache that we don't often see in first-time filmmakers.

Silly plot camouflaging some fascinating, if familiar, sci-fi themes (the emergence of digital life in machines, human transcendence through digital transfer, the awesomeness of Jeff Bridges). It's actually a pretty funny screenplay: there are plot holes a-plenty, but many of them are dismissed by the film itself (when learning of Clu's ability to transfer his entire army to the real world, Bridges exclaims: "He's figured out how to do it!").

Good casting and good acting: Hedlund anchors the movie without taking it over; Bridges gives it some depth and soul, and plays off himself nicely as Clu; Sheen is a key, if surprising, addition of "life" and Olivia Wilde is, well, Olivia Wilde, still one of the most rivetingly attractive actresses around.

(On a related note, the ending may be the one truly human moment in a film that could have used a few more.)

Overall, I think one's enjoyment rests in how much weight each of the above points carry. I must admit that I was completely glued to the screen the entire time -- my weakness for pretty stuff is such that I was never bored or focusing on the weak points.

[Ezee E]

Damn, I was loving the hell out of this until they left the grid. After that, the movie resolves to some lame ideas and the acting weakness of Hedlund becomes forefront. He's kind of awful, and Wilde isn't very good either.

Martin Sheen seemed like he could've been something, but his character starts up too late, and sadly ends too early.

But the opening scenes in the Grid are some of the more exciting sequences this year has to offer, and Daft Punk certainly helps that.

[KK2.0]

I enjoy it, but it's curiously unambitious. On a plus side, in this age when every fantasy and sci-fi builds itself into yet another franchise, a self-contained movie is in fact refreshing. It's a lot like an 80s movie in that respect. The story and many characters are there just to showcase the technology.

One question: I watched the original long time ago, but why is this movie called "Tron"? He seems to be a peripheral character.


Actually, it leaves a lot for sequels, but i agree with the "its like an 80's movie" it's kinda silly and it's very much like the original, neat ideas, stunning production design and music, but weak script and bad pacing keeps it from aiming higher.

I didn't regret watching it (looked great on IMAX), but it was certainly more forgettable and boring than i expected.

[Mysterious Dude]

Big disappointment. I am a big fan of the original, and I feel that there is not enough to bridge the two movies. They got Jeff Bridges and Bruce Boxleitner, but that's it. It would have been cool if they'd gotten David Warner to somehow return as the villain. I realize he was effectively defeated in the first movie (though that didn't stop Geoffrey Rush from Pirates of the Caribbean; just sayin'), but Flynn's doppelganger was just not a very good villain by comparison. The Master Control Program was just so much... bigger, and more frightening.

There were some flashbacks to 1989, detailing Clu's betrayal. I would have liked them better if those scenes had resembled the 1982 film more, with more primitive-looking visual effects, but it was pretty much the same kind of effects and art direction that the rest of the movie had. I preferred thinking that the 1982 Tron world was the way it really looked, and not just the way Disney could portray it with limited technology. It's a world that should evolve with technology. But in this film, the only way you know it took place in the past is because there is a weird pattern that makes it look sort of like a TV screen.

[KK2.0]

Actually, i thought it was a neat detail, like if the past had lower resolution.

[number8]

I preferred thinking that the 1982 Tron world was the way it really looked, and not just the way Disney could portray it with limited technology.

It was. The idea is that in 7 years, Clu 2.0, Tron and Flynn had made it super advanced.

[Sven]

This suuuuuuuuucked.

[Spinal]

This suuuuuuuuucked.

Thank you.

[Watashi]

Saw this in IMAX again last night (3rd time). The middle drags, but my god, there are some absolutely amazing scenes in this film.

[[ETM]]

This suuuuuuuuucked.

Awesome. Can't wait.

[Dukefrukem]

FUCK!

THcItXSnngA

[[ETM]]

THAT I'll see. Awesome voice cast. I hope the writers get to play with the material a bit more, because the world offers a lot of room for a good story. I mean, it could be what the Matrix sequels should have been, really.

[Mal]

Pee-Wee does TRON. Heh.

[Scar]

The movie was a visual treat, the story not so much.

Definitely entertaining, but it is no Speed Racer.

[eternity]

The movie was a visual treat, the story not so much.

Definitely entertaining, but it is no Speed Racer.http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news_img/22142/tron_legacy_22142.jpg

*snide comment*

[Irish]

Triumph of spectacle over .. everything else. An action movie where the hero asks his digital Obi-wan, "What do we do now?" and the answer is, astoundingly, "Nothing." And the the guy means it.

The opening is amazing in almost every way but .. damn. It's a Wizard of Oz story without, you know, the story. Or characters. Or even color.

So bad I couldn't finish watching.

[MadMan]

I love both the original and the sequel. They both have similar flaws, and are overly ambitious, although the original's FX broke new ground while the sequel merely utilizes current technology. The sequel has a far superior score, though.

Oh and the sequel could have used more Michael Sheen hamming it up in hilarious, spectacular fashion. Too much style, not enough subsistence, but I don't really care in this instance. Jeff Bridges was clearly channeling The Dude a lot in his performance, although I didn't really mind-I find it to be a sneaky in-joke that worked.

So yes, count me in for a third installment. Considering the gap between the first and the second, I'm willing to wait.

[Dukefrukem]

So bad I couldn't finish watching.

I can't wait for the sequel.

[lovejuice]

anyone seen this (http://www.playboy.com/articles/playboy-tron-gallery-game-on/)? Kinda NSFW.

[number8]

And you think the movie's writing was bad? WTF is this?

http://disneydigitalbooks.go.com/tron/

[Dukefrukem]

And you think the movie's writing was bad? WTF is this?

http://disneydigitalbooks.go.com/tron/

Ugg... i need to swipe with my mouse? Navigation fail.

[[ETM]]

Uh... it's a technology showcase for HTML5? It's a simplified storyboard from the film, and you can use arrow keys Duke.

[Dead & Messed Up]

Tron Legacy falls into the same trap as Superman Returns. It's so busy being reverent and thoughtful that its pace slackens and its humor dampens and all that remains is cold beauty. Granted, its beauty is genuine. Joseph Kosinski and his effects team transmute the original film's ungainly look into a smooth, crisp universe of ominous shadow and fog and fluorescent beams, and the score by Daft Punk deftly weaves techno patterns into strings. But along the way, the film discards ideas pregnant with possibility. Its theological leanings are trapped in a simulated world of incomprehensible logic, and villain C.L.U. has late-film ambitions of fascism mostly because he's programmed to. There's no perspective to his villainy, only machination.

C+

[MadMan]

Superman Returns-81
Tron: Legacy-90

Huh. Must have loved Tron partly due to it having been scored by Daft Punk. Plus it had Jeff Bridges. And Oliva Wilde. Plus the guy who played Bridges' son wasn't that bad of an actor. The visuals sure were pretty. It held up pretty well on a second viewing. I'm glad I viewed it in theaters, but unfortunately I saw it in 3D-what a waste of money in that regard, as the 3D was spotty.

As for Superman, I was surprised I liked it so much, and that I still gave it the same rating on a second viewing. Way too long, but Spacey chewing scenery, Parker Posey being funny, and Brandon Roth actually doing a good job as Supes/Clark Kent made up for some of the movie's weaker moments.

[Skitch]

Tron Legacy's score seems to go up with each viewing, for me.

[EyesWideOpen]

Tron Legacy's score seems to go up with each viewing, for me.

I actually like the Tron Legacy "Reconfigured" album more than the regular album.

[[ETM]]

I think he meant the rating he gave it, not the music?

[EyesWideOpen]

Yep, I just realized that. That's what I get for posting in a rush before work.

[Skitch]

I actually like the Tron Legacy "Reconfigured" album more than the regular album.

Yes I did mean my rating of the movie, but there's another version of the musical score? Sweet!

[Henry Gale]

I thought Reconfigured was really bad. Even if there were a couple of decent reworkings of the original score in the bunch, I thought it was such a disjointed and lifeless compilation of paint-by-numbers house remixes (not to mention the whole thing goes on for 77 minutes) that those few inspired moments weren't enough to make it feel like anything but a colossal waste of time, both for me and everyone involved in its creation. You have tracks like the Avicii "remix" of Derezzed which is basically just a platform for him to throw together some of his usual over-the-top, synth-drenched wankery in a way that bears no resemblance to the original piece whatsoever.

The remix album just felt like a rushed cash-in set on ruining the potential legacy (sorry) of its inspiration. I'm not surprised Daft Punk wanted no part of it.

[Ivan Drago]

Aside from the Moby remix of The Son of Flynn, I don't really care for Reconfigured. And this is coming from a guy who has trance/house music as a guilty pleasure.

[max314]

I'm going to step into the short line of people who actually like this movie.

Embedded into a narrative that's always swiftly paced, albeit never to the detriment of character development, was a genuinely affecting father-son story, as well as an intriguing exploration of deeper philosophical ideas regarding the nature of the universe, how perfection is the natural state of things, and how said state it is not an egoistic goal that must be imposed upon the system but rather a selfless act of allowing oneself to integrate with it. As a fan of The Matrix Revolutions, it's nice to see that theme echoed in TRON: Legacy; the crucial difference being that the latter actually makes the theme far more accessible to a general audience.

In addition to being both emotionally and intellectually engaging, the whole adventure takes place in a world that feels finely detailed and looks utterly orgasmic. The action scenes are visceral and lucid, and the performances — while feeling a little stilted in the hands of first-timer Joseph Kosinski — are elevated by the actors who are able to do so much with even the thinnest of material.

A solid adventure flick. And this from someone who was never a massive fan of the original.

Oh, and dat score.

★★★★★

[max314]

Superman Returns-81

[...]

As for Superman, I was surprised I liked it so much, and that I still gave it the same rating on a second viewing. Way too long, but Spacey chewing scenery, Parker Posey being funny, and Brandon Roth actually doing a good job as Supes/Clark Kent made up for some of the movie's weaker moments.

Without wanting to derail the thread, I'm actually a big fan of Superman Returns.

I missed it at the cinema because, despite being a fan of The Usual Suspects, I had found Bryan Singer's excursions into the superhero genre — the first two X-Men films — to be somewhat underwhelming (that said, I thought Matthew Vaughn's X-Men: First Class was top notch).

Imagine my surprise when I caught Superman Returns on Sky Movies one day and found myself falling in love with it. "Finally," I thought, "someone's actually made me relate to the most flawless character in the pantheon of popular fiction!"

Yes, Bryan Singer had made a flat out, sincere, honest to God character study of Superman. Like that other oft hated superhero flick, Ang Lee's Hulk, Superman Returns is a lyrical meditation on what it's like to be a God among men. One of the greatest shots in recent cinema has to be that of Superman hovering between the Earth and the stars — a most poignant metaphor of a man who belongs to no-one, but is destined to protect everyone.

While it may grate on Kevin Smith that Superman didn't punch anything in Superman Returns, it grates on me even more when superhero movies think that all they have to do is punch shit to make them work.

The end.

[Qrazy]

I'm going to step into the short line of people who actually like this movie.

Embedded into a narrative that's always swiftly paced, albeit never to the detriment of character development, was a genuinely affecting father-son story, as well as an intriguing exploration of deeper philosophical ideas regarding the nature of the universe, how perfection is the natural state of things, and how said state it is not an egoistic goal that must be imposed upon the system but rather a selfless act of allowing oneself to integrate with it.

Wut?

[max314]

Wut?

That's what Flynn says. That he was searching for perfection, but it was right in front of him the whole time.

In other words, the universe is perfect. It's just us who see flaws in it.

[Dead & Messed Up]

While it may grate on Kevin Smith that Superman didn't punch anything in Superman Returns, it grates on me even more when superhero movies think that all they have to do is punch shit to make them work.

The end.

Ohhhh. There was this thing on RT where somebody claimed fanboys disliked Superman Returns for not having enough scenes of him punching stuff, and I was just flabbergasted. I was led to believe it was a widespread criticism, but if it's Kevin Smith, I can just prudently ignore it and go about my day.

I could do that in either case, but you know what I mean.

[max314]

Yeah, Kevin Smith is the generator of that particular meme.

CLICK HERE (http://youtu.be/w_EkvOCjc9A) to see where it started.

[Qrazy]

That's what Flynn says. That he was searching for perfection, but it was right in front of him the whole time.

In other words, the universe is perfect. It's just us who see flaws in it.

I haven't seen the film, I'm only responding to your philosophical statement. I still don't know what you mean by this.

It sounds vaguely like the Panglossian/Leibnizian 'best of all possible worlds' concept.

[Dukefrukem]

Without wanting to derail the thread, I'm actually a big fan of Superman Returns.

I missed it at the cinema because, despite being a fan of The Usual Suspects, I had found Bryan Singer's excursions into the superhero genre — the first two X-Men films — to be somewhat underwhelming (that said, I thought Matthew Vaughn's X-Men: First Class was top notch).

Imagine my surprise when I caught Superman Returns on Sky Movies one day and found myself falling in love with it. "Finally," I thought, "someone's actually made me relate to the most flawless character in the pantheon of popular fiction!"

Yes, Bryan Singer had made a flat out, sincere, honest to God character study of Superman. Like that other oft hated superhero flick, Ang Lee's Hulk, Superman Returns is a lyrical meditation on what it's like to be a God among men. One of the greatest shots in recent cinema has to be that of Superman hovering between the Earth and the stars — a most poignant metaphor of a man who belongs to no-one, but is destined to protect everyone.

While it may grate on Kevin Smith that Superman didn't punch anything in Superman Returns, it grates on me even more when superhero movies think that all they have to do is punch shit to make them work.

The end.

Wow. We are night and day on this movie; I found Superman Returns to be the exact opposite of everything you just mentioned including one of the most poorly written villain plots in any superhero movie ever.

[Melville]

I haven't seen the film, I'm only responding to your philosophical statement. I still don't know what you mean by this.

It sounds vaguely like the Panglossian/Leibnizian 'best of all possible worlds' concept.
"how said state is not an egoistic goal that must be imposed upon the system but rather a selfless act of allowing oneself to integrate with it" makes it sound much more like Mahayana Buddhism. Samsara is Nirvana.

[max314]

Wow. We are night and day on this movie; I found Superman Returns to be the exact opposite of everything you just mentioned including one of the most poorly written villain plots in any superhero movie ever.

I believe there is some overlap in our opinions of Lex Luthor's depiction in Superman Returns.

I would have preferred if Spacey hadn't attempted to mirror Gene Hackman's performance, but had instead created a more reserved, more cerebral incarnation of the character. Something more akin to Michael Rosenbaum's rendition in the Smallville TV show or the Lex Luthor we see in Superman: Doomsday; I absolutely love that shot of Lex standing still as a statue inside his skyscraper overlooking the city as his eyes quietly track the cataclysmic battle unfolding between Doomsday and Superman across Metropolis.

That said, I understand that Superman Returns was paying homage to the style of Donner's films. So I tolerate it.


"how said state is not an egoistic goal that must be imposed upon the system but rather a selfless act of allowing oneself to integrate with it" makes it sound much more like Mahayana Buddhism. Samsara is Nirvana.

"You're messing with my Zen thing, man."

[Dukefrukem]

Even if he didn't try and emulate Hackman, the whole plot of creating the new continent is asinine. He wants to kill billions of people (at some point he says this) so they will come crawling back to him because he will control all the available land to live on? It's not like that giant crystal can harbor any life whatsoever. There's no natural resources, no food, no way to building homes... he'd essentially destroy the whole planet and then become unable to sustain his own life. Stupid.

[max314]

They never do explain precisely how Lex plans to make the new Kryptonian continent into a fruitful landmass. I always assumed the other crystals had something to do with it.

But, yes, it is a bit of a hole.

Happily, I find the character stuff outweighs these logic flaws.

[megladon8]

Definitely with max on this one. It's not without flaws, but Superman Returns is pretty great.

[Scar]

Definitely with max on this one. It's not without flaws, but Superman Returns is pretty great.

Loves me some Superman Returns.

[Morris Schæffer]

Perhaps my memory is hazy, but wasn't that almost the exact same plan that Hackman had in the 1978 film? given that it's a sequel of sorts, I can understand wanting to stick with what you know although spacey wouldn't know since he used to be Hackman. It was a bit odd to have a sequel to a movie that came out 28 years ago and have all new characters playing the leads while continuing the story. Perhaps they should have started over completely, like they should have with Tron Legacy too.

[[ETM]]

Perhaps they should have started over completely, like they should have with Tron Legacy too.

Didn't they? It's basically the same plot, with similar characters, only different motivations.

[MadMan]

I felt that Tron Legacy and the original Tron were very different movies not only in terms of the obvious (some new actors, different director, different special effects) but when it came to plot and storyline. I also like Tron Legacy a bit more just because it has heart and soul, something that the first Tron was kind of lacking.

[Morris Schæffer]

;442858']Didn't they? It's basically the same plot, with similar characters, only different motivations.

Po-tay-toes, po-tah-toes? :)

[max314]

I felt that Tron Legacy and the original Tron were very different movies not only in terms of the obvious (some new actors, different director, different special effects) but when it came to plot and storyline. I also like Tron Legacy a bit more just because it has heart and soul, something that the first Tron was kind of lacking.

I agree.

[[ETM]]

Po-tay-toes, po-tah-toes? :)

Something like that. And it's a good thing. I love both films.

[megladon8]

So I really liked this.

[Skitch]

So I really liked this.

Me too. Gets better every time I watch it, and its the best looking and sounding blu I own.

[[ETM]]

Looks like a sequel is a go, although the bitches seem to have no intention of continuing the (excellent) animated show.

[megladon8]

Me too. Gets better every time I watch it, and its the best looking and sounding blu I own.


That's pretty much what I liked about it.

I don't know that the "story" actually even registered while I was watching it.

As an audio-visual experience, it was pretty freakin' cool.

[Dukefrukem]

So the RedLetterMedia guys did a piece on Tron and Tron Legacy... and i think I finally have clarity on why a lot of MC liked this movie so much. In retrospect, with Kosinski's take on Oblivion, I really like his visual eye. Makes me hopeful for Top Gun.

[Lazlo]

So the RedLetterMedia guys did a piece on Tron and Tron Legacy... and i think I finally have clarity on why a lot of MC liked this movie so much. In retrospect, with Kosinski's take on Oblivion, I really like his visual eye. Makes me hopeful for Top Gun.

The guy makes slick movies. Only the Brave is really solid too.

[Skitch]

He hasn't missed for me yet.

[TGM]

So the RedLetterMedia guys did a piece on Tron and Tron Legacy... and i think I finally have clarity on why a lot of MC liked this movie so much. In retrospect, with Kosinski's take on Oblivion, I really like his visual eye. Makes me hopeful for Top Gun.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMkMSoBdFAc

Watched this yesterday. Really enjoyed this conversation.

[[ETM]]

I love Tron Legacy. The animated show they could have touched upon more because it's a fascinating piece. I recommend it to everyone who hasn't seen it.

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[MadMan]

I have Oblivion in my collection. I should watch it at some point.

[Skitch]

I have Oblivion in my collection. I should watch it at some point.

It's so much better than the trailer paints it to be.

[Dukefrukem]

;614383']I love Tron Legacy. The animated show they could have touched upon more because it's a fascinating piece. I recommend it to everyone who hasn't seen it.

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I hadn't heard of it until RLM. it's on Disney+ so.. don't mind if I do!

[Morris Schæffer]

Oblivion is a bit derivative from what I recall, but still capable to surprise. The soundtrack is really something else.
Only the Brave is was very engaging. He was going to reboot The Black Hole at one point.

[Dukefrukem]

Oh my that Soundtrack. So good.

[Skitch]

Oh my that Soundtrack. So good.

All timer.

[Mysterious Dude]

As a fan of the original Tron, it hurts to hear Jay and Jack call it "ugly." Is that a common view? Because I think it looks amazing.

I also appreciate the early scenes in the computer world, because as a kid, the only "boring" parts of the movie were the live action parts, so it was nice to get a few sneak peaks of the grid before Jeff Bridges goes there.

[MadMan]

As a fan of the original Tron, it hurts to hear Jay and Jack call it "ugly." Is that a common view? Because I think it looks amazing.

I also appreciate the early scenes in the computer world, because as a kid, the only "boring" parts of the movie were the live action parts, so it was nice to get a few sneak peaks of the grid before Jeff Bridges goes there.

Both Tron films look great.

[Dukefrukem]

As a fan of the original Tron, it hurts to hear Jay and Jack call it "ugly." Is that a common view? Because I think it looks amazing.

It does not hold up. When I compare that movie to other movies from it's era... it's shocking. They bring up Blade Runner which holds up wonderfully. But Tron looks so... flat.

[Mysterious Dude]

It does not hold up. When I compare that movie to other movies from it's era... it's shocking. They bring up Blade Runner which holds up wonderfully. But Tron looks so... flat.
I'm not saying it "holds up." I'm saying it's not ugly.

I also don't think the Blade Runner comparison is particularly apt. The two movies have very different goals. Blade Runner is set in the "real world," so its effects are realistic. Tron is set in another world, and I think it looks appropriately otherworldly. I was disappointed when Tron Legacy looked basically like Blade Runner.

[Dukefrukem]

I was disappointed when Tron Legacy looked basically like Blade Runner.

Oof. We have totally different eyes.

[Skitch]

I'm still blown away about the special effects of the original Tron. Its just a lot more talky than T:L for me. I'm sure I've said it before, but Tron is 90 minutes that feels like 2 and a half hours, and Legacy is 2 and a half hours that feels like 90 minutes. Still really appreciate Tron for paving the way, but that sequel is my jam.

[[ETM]]

Oh my that Soundtrack. So good.I've been listening to it time after time ever since it came out, just like Tron: Legacy. Susanne Sundfor, the Norwegian artist who sings the credits song is one of my favorites now. Wife and I flew to Oslo and Berlin to hear her perform live.

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