Match Cut Directors Consensus - Alain Resnais

[dreamdead]

Welcome to week 25 of the Directors consensus; this week we're headed onto Alain Resnais' works. Details and directions of the consensus are here (http://www.match-cut.org/showpost.php?p=26509&postcount=1)...

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[Teh Sausage]

Hiroshima mon amour (1959) - 9.5/10
Last Year in Marienbad (1961) - 9.0/10
Stavisky... (1974) - 7.0/10

[Spinal]

Night and Fog - 9.5
Hiroshima, mon amour - 9
Last Year at Marienbad - 9

[Melville]

Night and Fog - 8
Hiroshima mon amour - 4.5
Last Year at Marienbad - 7.5

[Sven]

Night and Fog - 9.5
Hiroshima, mon amour - 9
Last Year at Marienbad - 9

This is my post exactly. No joke. Last one wins, Spinal.

[Kurious Jorge v3.1]

Night and Fog - 10
Tout la memoire le monde = 9.5
Styrene Song - 10
Hiroshima mon Amour - 10
Last Year at Marienbad - 8
Muriel - 7.5
Je T'aime Je T'aime - 8.5
Providence - 8
Life is a Bed of Roses - 6
Smoking/No Smoking - 6.5

[Raiders]

Night and Fog (1955) 8.5
Hiroshima mon amour (1959) 7.5
Last Year at Marienbad (1961) 9.0
Muriel (1963) 8.5
La Guerre est finie [The War is Over] (1966) 7.0
Providence (1977) 9.0

[Derek]

Guernica - 6.5
Night and Fog - 9.0
Hiroshima, Mon Amour - 7.0
Last Year at Marienbad - 8.5
Muriel - 6.0
La Guerre est Finie - 7.0
Providence - 8.0
Mon Oncle D'Amerique - 6.5
Private Fears in Public Places - 7.5

I really want to give Hiroshima and Muriel another look.

[dreamdead]

Hiroshima mon amour - 4.5


Interesting. Anything that you can pinpoint your response to? I was rather amazed by it and wonder if having access to the book would shift my response to the film.

I'm holding off on posting my ratings until I get to Night and Fog and Muriel later into the week...

[Stay Puft]

Night and Fog - 8

[origami_mustache]

Hiroshima mon amour - 9.5
Private Fears in Public Places - 6

[Melville]

Interesting. Anything that you can pinpoint your response to? I was rather amazed by it and wonder if having access to the book would shift my response to the film.
I don't remember it very well, but I had the same response to it as I did to Sans Soleil: too much soft-toned voiceover portending more than it adds up to, and not enough of interest in its editing rhythm to completely carry it. I'll probably give both films another shot at some point.

[Bosco B Thug]

Night and Fog - 8
Hiroshima, Mon Amour - 9

[Duncan]

Last Year at Marienbad - 8.0
Muriel - 8.5

[Ezee E]

It's a shame I have to do this...

Night and Fog - 10
Hiroshima Mon Amour - 6
Last Year at Marienbad - 2

[Mysterious Dude]

Night and Fog - 7.5
Hiroshima mon amour - 8.0
Last Year at Marienbad - 4.5

[soitgoes...]

Night and Fog - 9.0

[Boner M]

Night and Fog - 9
Hiroshima, Mon Amour - 7
Last Year at Marienbad - 10
Muriel - 6.5
Private Fears in Public Places - 6.5

[Weeping_Guitar]

Night and Fog - 8.5
Hiroshima Mon Amour - 7
Love Unto Death - 6
Private Fears in Public Places - 7.5

[Hugh_Grant]

Not on the Lips -- 9
Private Fears in Public Places -- 6

[monolith94]

Hiroshima mon Amour - 9.5
Last Year at Marienbad - 10

[NickGlass]

Hiroshima, Mon Amour: 8.0
Last Year at Marienbad: 9.0
Private Fears in Public Places: 6.0

[Qrazy]

I don't remember it very well, but I had the same response to it as I did to Sans Soleil: too much soft-toned voiceover portending more than it adds up to, and not enough of interest in its editing rhythm to completely carry it. I'll probably give both films another shot at some point.

I agree that the method itself is somewhat off-puttingly pretentious but I feel that ultimately the dialogue itself does add up to all that it portends... and I just disagree with the editing comment.

[Qrazy]

# On connaît la chanson (1997) - 6.5
... aka Same Old Song
# Mon oncle d'Amérique (1980) - 6
# Année dernière Ã* Marienbad, L' (1961) - 7.5
... aka Last Year in Marienbad (UK)
# Hiroshima mon amour (1959) - 9.5
# Guernica (1950/I) - 6.5

Night and Fog I saw in a class years ago and I'm not sure if we saw the whole thing or just snippets so I'll hold off on rating it. Last Year at Marienbad I really liked except for the score which I hated.

[Yxklyx]

Night and Fog - 7
Hiroshima mon amour - 7
Last Year at Marienbad - 7

[baby doll]

Nuit et brouillard (1955) [9]
Hiroshima mon amour (1959) [9]
L'Anneé dernière Ã* Marienbad (1961) [9]
Providence (1977) [9]
Mon oncle d'Amerique (1980) [8]
Pas sur la bouche (2003) [8]
Coeurs (2006) [8]

I need to re-see Muriel and La Guerre est finie.

[dreamdead]

Night and Fog - 8.5
Hiroshima mon Amour - 8.5
Muriel - 7.5

Thoughts on Night and Fog are rather typical, as I love how Resnais crosscuts between historical footage/images with how we reconcile (or don't) the actions of the horrific city with its then-present day reality, all desolate wasteland and decaying preserve. It allows for a mediation of space and what makes up our cultural memory of that space, which are fascinating topics for a film of this nature to cover. Despite its power, though, I wonder what we're meant to take from this film... that is to say, are we merely to question and remember that all towns/people possess in them the capacity to embrace rampant butchery, or to remember all the atrocities that linger in the remains of our present cities, or... I want this film to have just a bit more to say, I think, and Resnais doesn't quite go there. Still brutal in the last five minutes or so of images.:cry:

[BirdsAteMyFace]

Hiroshima mon amour - 9

[dreamdead]

I'll have this posted by tonight. Any last stragglers?

[dreamdead]

Results:
Night and Fog – 8.6875 (16)
Providence – 8.5 (4)
Hiroshima mon Amour – 8.175 (20)
Last Year at Marienbad - 7.9375 (16)
Muriel – 7.41667 (6)
Private Fears in Public Places – 6.7857 (7)
Overall: 7.9171

Did Not Qualify:
Styrene Song- 10 (1)
Tout la memoire le monde – 9.5 (1)
Not on the Lips - 8.5 (2)
Je T'aime Je T'aime – 8.5 (1)
The War is Over – 7 (2)
Stavisky… - 7 (1)
Mon Oncle D'Amerique - 6.833 (3)
Guernica – 6.5 (2)
Same Old Song – 6.5 (1)
Smoking/No Smoking - 6.5 (1)
Love Unto Death – 6 (1)
Life is a Bed of Roses – 6 (1)

Most dedicated: Kurious Jorge
Biggest fan: baby doll
Biggest Hater: Ezee E (no one really stepped up to the plate on this one, though)

[Derek]

Coeurs – 8 (1)

This is the same film as Private Fears in Public Places.

[dreamdead]

This is the same film as Private Fears in Public Places.

Ah, thank you. :pritch: I'll get that changed in a sec here...

[Ezee E]

Biggest Hater: Ezee E (no one really stepped up to the plate on this one, though)

Wusses.

So what does it mean that Reitman has twice the turnout of Resnais? Anything?

[Derek]

So what does it mean that Reitman has twice the turnout of Resnais? Anything?

Our parents raised us all poorly?

[Ezee E]

Our parents raised us all poorly?
I don't really know if being the parents of baby_doll is anything to be proud of.

[B-side]

Watched Hiroshima Mon Amour as my first Resnais a while back. Didn't love it as a whole, but I did love roughly the first 20 minutes.