Friday the 13th remake

[megladon8]

The first image has been released from this remake, which is produced by Michael Bay and directed by Marcus Nispel (Pathfinder).

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/8614/jasonbg5.th.jpg (http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jasonbg5.jpg)


More info (and links) here. (http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=7022&offset=50)

[D_Davis]

Cool image.

I bet this is going to be pretty good.

Although...in the first F13, Jason wasn't the killer. Looks like they are doing something a little different.

[megladon8]

Cool image.

I bet this is going to be pretty good.

Although...in the first F13, Jason wasn't the killer. Looks like they are doing something a little different.


Yeah, I was surprised by the really nice composition of the image.

I'm hoping this doesn't end up PG-13.

I actually thought the Bay-produced remake of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre wasn't too bad, but I never bothered with the prequel.

[D_Davis]

I love the fanboy comments in that link. Hilarious. They talk as if the FF13 are some amazing series that shouldn't be soiled with a remake. Even as a fan of the films, I will be the first to admit that they pretty much suck and yet I find them enjoyable for many reasons, especially Jason Goes to Hell, Jason X, and Freddy Vs. Jason. Also, these kinds of films have always been made simply to make a quick buck - it's not like a remake is going to ruin the integrity of the original artistic vision or something.

[megladon8]

I love the fanboy comments in that link. Hilarious. They talk as if the FF13 are some amazing series that shouldn't be soiled with a remake. Even as a fan of the films, I will be the first to admit that they pretty much suck and yet I find them enjoyable for many reasons, especially Jason Goes to Hell, Jason X, and Freddy Vs. Jason. Also, these kinds of films have always been made simply to make a quick buck - it's not like a remake is going to ruin the integrity of the original artistic vision or something.


Yeah, I found the series entertaining as hell, but they're terribly written, acted and directed films.

What did you think of Zombie's Halloween remake?

[D_Davis]

I actually thought the Bay-produced remake of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre wasn't too bad, but I never bothered with the prequel.

I never saw this, but I have no problem with it. I am not a big fan of the original. I've always liked part 2 the best - it's a total hoot and oh so wrong on so many levels.

"You got that last slaughter on tape you play it on the radio!"

Classic line. One of my favorite Dennis Hopper performances.

[megladon8]

I never saw this, but I have no problem with it. I am not a big fan of the original. I've always liked part 2 the best - it's a total hoot and oh so wrong on so many levels.

"You got that last slaughter on tape you play it on the radio!"

Classic line. One of my favorite Dennis Hopper performances.


I never saw any of the sequels, though I saw a bit of #2 on the TV once, and it looked like a lot of fun.

Involved some guys in a car, and Leatherface. That's all I remember.

[D_Davis]

What did you think of Zombie's Halloween remake?

Fantastic. Well, half of it was. The prequel bits are remarkable. I loved it up to the remake parts. The parts with Michael in the hospital are incredible effective. Once the remake starts it looses some its steam, but it is still a chilling film. This one actually creeped me out a bit. The sheer brutality of the murders upset me. This is a sign of a good slasher film. I didn't enjoy the violence at all, and I actually felt wrong for watching it.

[D_Davis]

Involved some guys in a car, and Leatherface. That's all I remember.

Oh yeah, it's brilliant. The first scene has Leatherface car surfing while attacking a car with his chainsaw. It's just awesome. The whole film is totally bonkers, kind of gross, and really funny.

[megladon8]

Fantastic. Well, half of it was. The prequel bits are remarkable. I loved it up to the remake parts. The parts with Michael in the hospital are incredible effective. Once the remake starts it looses some its steam, but it is still a chilling film. This one actually creeped me out a bit. The sheer brutality of the murders upset me. This is a sign of a good slasher film. I didn't enjoy the violence at all, and I actually felt wrong for watching it.


I felt the same way as you did about the violence, but I did have some big problems with the film.

I didn't like that they made Michael Myers into a hulking behemoth of a man. I found it much eerier when he was just a regular sized guy who would not stop.

Also I found the film just too damn long. The upsetting violence didn't warrant a nearly 2 hour movie (and the DVD unrated cut is more than 2 hours, which I doubt I could watch, at least not in one sitting).

[D_Davis]

I didn't like that they made Michael Myers into a hulking behemoth of a man. I found it much eerier when he was just a regular sized guy who would not stop.


Really?

Oh man, I loved the HUGE Meyers in the film. Especially in the hospital with all the masks hanging in the room. Makes the original look small, wimpy, and totally not scary. I thought this was the best decision by far. He was like a demon-possessed tank, and they used his physique effectively in how he killed his victims. If he wasn't big, the brutality would not have had the same force of impact. For once, Michael actually felt menacing to me.

[megladon8]

Really?

Oh man, I loved the HUGE Meyers in the film. Especially in the hospital with all the masks hanging in the room. Makes the original look small, wimpy, and totally not scary. I thought this was the best decision by far. He was like a demon-possessed tank, and they used his physique effectively in how he killed his victims. If he wasn't big, the brutality would not have had the same force of impact. For once, Michael actually felt menacing to me.


I guess we must just agree to disagree, then :)

I find it more frightening to imagine a regular man doing those horrible things. he would have to be possessed, or, as the doc says, just pure evil.

A guy who's the size of a tank wouldn't need to be possessed, he could just be pissed off.

[Dead & Messed Up]

Oh yeah, it's brilliant. The first scene has Leatherface car surfing while attacking a car with his chainsaw. It's just awesome. The whole film is totally bonkers, kind of gross, and really funny.

God I hated that movie. And I thought its humor was bludgeoningly awful.

[Dukefrukem]

why remake this film? why not continue to make sequels?

[D_Davis]

God I hated that movie. And I thought its humor was bludgeoningly awful.

That's too bad.

[Scar]

God I hated that movie. And I thought its humor was bludgeoningly awful.

I remember loving the opening sequence, but that was about it.

[Scar]

why remake this film? why not continue to make sequels?

'Cause sometimes it better to do the 'ol ctrl-alt-delete.

[D_Davis]

The brilliance of Texas Chainsaw 2 is hard for many to grasp.

[Ivan Drago]

It's official. Hollywood has ran out of ideas, so the best thing they can do is reboot a horrid movie franchise.

[D_Davis]

It's official. Hollywood has ran out of ideas, so the best thing they can do is reboot a horrid movie franchise.

And super hero franchises.

[Teh Sausage]

I love the fanboy comments in that link. Hilarious. They talk as if the FF13 are some amazing series that shouldn't be soiled with a remake. Even as a fan of the films, I will be the first to admit that they pretty much suck and yet I find them enjoyable for many reasons, especially Jason Goes to Hell, Jason X, and Freddy Vs. Jason. Also, these kinds of films have always been made simply to make a quick buck - it's not like a remake is going to ruin the integrity of the original artistic vision or something.

Heh. It's even funnier when you consider that the original was just a remake/rip-off of Bava's Twitch of the Death Nerve anyway.

[Dukefrukem]

And super hero franchises.

They need to do another Spawn film... and I can think of a few dozen comics to reboot. How about a Maxx film? or Pitt!

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/pitt/7-1.jpg

[number8]

I'd rather a reboot (which is what this is, it's not remaking the first Friday) than a sequel at this point, because really, after the awesomeness of Jason X and Freddy vs Jason, there's nowhere else to go.

[D_Davis]

because really, after the awesomeness of Jason X and Freddy vs Jason, there's nowhere else to go.

Thank you.

[Dukefrukem]

Actually now that you mention it, arn't they suppoed to make a second Freddy vs Jason?

[number8]

They seriously tried to make Freddy vs Jason vs Ash, and New Line VP Jeff Katz already wrote it, but Bruce Campbell and Sam Raimi weren't interested, so knowing the movie will never happen New Line just asked Wildstorm to turn it into a comic last year:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/47/Freddy_jason_ash_1_cvr.jpg

And that's when they decided to just reboot the franchises.

[Dukefrukem]

They seriously tried to make Freddy vs Jason vs Ash, and New Line VP Jeff Katz already wrote it, but Bruce Campbell and Sam Raimi weren't interested, so knowing the movie will never happen New Line just asked Wildstorm to turn it into a comic last year:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/47/Freddy_jason_ash_1_cvr.jpg

And that's when they decided to just reboot the franchises.

I actually remember seeing that when I went and picked up Marvel Zombies vs Army of Darkness.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/ianinozzie/Marvel%20Zombies/MarvelZombiesVsArmyofDarkness1 .jpg

[Ezee E]

So how did that comic go? Freddy Vs. Jason Vs. Ash that is.

Who will Michael Myers square off against now?

[number8]

So how did that comic go? Freddy Vs. Jason Vs. Ash that is.

Just about what you'd expect. There's a cool scene where Jason walks into S-Mart and starts wasting people with shopping carts, until Ash steps in.

The most hilarious part of the comic is that every time Jason appears they would write sound effects "ch-ch-ch-AH-AH-AH".

[D_Davis]

They could have made all kinds of cool Versus films, especially if they got creative directors like Ronny Yu on board.

[megladon8]

They could have made all kinds of cool Versus films, especially if they got creative directors like Ronny Yu on board.


Yeah, but that would have made sense.

And there is your fatal flaw, when it comes to Hollywood logic.

[lovejuice]

so is it directed by tarantino?

[Ezee E]

so is it directed by tarantino?
No.

[MadMan]

I'm actually all in favor of them remaking Friday the 13th, provided they do it in a halfway decent fashion. I actually thought that the Halloween remake was quite solid, and it was one of my most memorable theater experiences last year. While I did like the original "Friday" the film really is one of those movies that could actually benefit from a remake/reboot. That's what good remakes are supposed to do: either take the original idea in a new direction (which Zombie's "Halloween" did) or better/up the original (which is what Carpenter did with "The Thing"). Besides remakes have been around for ages-hell Hitchcock remade one of his own films.

[Watashi]

Teaser Trailer. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y684lOpNkiw)

I have never seen a single Halloween, Friday the 13th, or Nightmare on Elm Street film.

[Dead & Messed Up]

Teaser Trailer. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y684lOpNkiw)

I have never seen a single Halloween, Friday the 13th, or Nightmare on Elm Street film.

Watch Halloween, A Nightmare on Elm Street, and Wes Craven's New Nightmare.

Then stop.

[Dukefrukem]

weird, so Jason will be in the remake, and he now can run.

[Henry Gale]

Ok, I have to admit I thought the last shot was pretty awesome. The rest... I guess we'll have to wait and see. Could go either way.

They really should have just made this a sequel instead of a remake anyway seeing as it's not following the first of the originals anyway. I mean as horrible as Jason X was (except for the face freezing death and virtual Crystal Lake stuff), Freddy vs. Jason was fun... right? But if they really do intend to make this a solid reboot of the franchise and show the origin in a new way (though they kind of did this in Vs. didn't they?), then I can see it being somewhat worthwhile.

[Dukefrukem]

I mean as horrible as Jason X was (except for the face freezing death and virtual Crystal Lake stuff), Freddy vs. Jason was fun... right?

Don't you mean the "Screw" scene? hehe.

[Henry Gale]

Don't you mean the "Screw" scene? hehe.

It's been a while and I don't feel like revisiting it. :sad:

...alright I'll look for the scene online.

[Scar]

weird, so Jason will be in the remake, and he now can run.

He's run before. Definately ran in IV.

[Scar]

All the evidence you'll ever need to prove that Jason has, in fact, run before:

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=Nud9-hG0EdY

[number8]

They've cut Pamela Vorhees and the drowning flashback out of the remake, apparently. So this is officially more of a sequel rather than a remake.

[Dukefrukem]

All the evidence you'll ever need to prove that Jason has, in fact, run before:

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=Nud9-hG0EdY

Ah yes! I guess I don't remember 2-5

[MadMan]

He's run before. Definately ran in IV.I'm pretty sure he was running around in the woods in the second flick too. That clip also showed him running in three, but he really didn't do a whole lot of that in the third flick. I've only seen the first three all the way through, however. If this remake is anything like the second film with some of the third mixed in, it'll be alright. Maybe even decent. Not sure about it being good though considering that Bay is involved.

[D_Davis]

Except Freddy Vs. Jason a long time ago (yeah, wasn't too memorable).



Freddy vs. Jason was fun... right?

FvJ rules beyond all human comprehension.

[megladon8]

I, too, really liked Freddy vs. Jason.

Works great as a send-up of and entry into the two series'.

[Henry Gale]

I didn't mean it sarcastically, I wrote it that way in case I was alone. I really do think Freddy vs. Jason is really good in a way very few recent horror films (at least mainstream) are: actually enjoyable and with just as much fun to be had as there is gore.

Well "fun" compared to the respective constant boredom and grotesqueness found in the onslaught of foreign horror remakes and torture porn that came out shortly after it and just kept on going.

Yeah... now I just wish they had made a sequel to that.

[Dead & Messed Up]

Freddy vs. Jason is fun, but I can't be the only one irritated by all the time it spent on dull teenage leads, not to mention its bizarre supporting actors that looked exactly like Jack Black and Jason Mewes. If there was a point to them, I missed it.

[D_Davis]

I didn't mean it sarcastically, I wrote it that way in case I was alone. I really do think Freddy vs. Jason is really good in a way very few recent horror films (at least mainstream) are: actually enjoyable and with just as much fun to be had as there is gore.

Well "fun" compared to the respective constant boredom and grotesqueness found in the onslaught of foreign horror remakes and torture porn that came out shortly after it and just kept on going.

Yeah... now I just wish they had made a sequel to that.

Plus it looks beautiful. It contains some of the best imagery from either franchise. Ronny Yu is a fantastic director, and his sense of style is all over the film.

The final throwdown is the stuff of legends, pure movie heaven if you ask me. I couldn't have asked for a better FvJ flick.

[Grouchy]

I have never seen a single Halloween, Friday the 13th, or Nightmare on Elm Street film.
How did you ever live through your teens?

[MadMan]

How did you ever live through your teens?Heh. I at least saw A Nightmare on Elm Street and Halloween when I a teenager. I revisited both recently, and found that my opinion of both were spot on. It was only last year and this year that I started viewing the Friday the 13th films.

[Ezee E]

How did you ever live through your teens?
Horror movies from our generation. Scream. I Know What You Did Last Summer, and, you know, so on.

[The Mike]

Watch Halloween, A Nightmare on Elm Street, and Wes Craven's New Nightmare.

Then stop.
Bah. A Nightmare on Elm Street 3 is totally the best of that series. And if you disagree, I sic Dokken on you!

[Dukefrukem]

Bah. A Nightmare on Elm Street 3 is totally the best of that series. And if you disagree, I sic Dokken on you!

Which one was that again? Cuz I LOVE A New Nightmare. The scene at the clinic is awesome!!!!!!

[Scar]

Which one was that again? Cuz I LOVE A New Nightmare. The scene at the clinic is awesome!!!!!!


#3 is Dream Warriors. New Nightmare is #7.

[Dukefrukem]

*sigh*

#3 is Dream Warriors. New Nightmare is #7.

I didn't mean that I thought 3 was a new nightmare. It was sorta in response to Dead's post.

[Grouchy]

Horror movies from our generation. Scream. I Know What You Did Last Summer, and, you know, so on.
Man, I'm fucking 21. I was 9 when Scream came out.

Regardless, you watch Horror movies as a teen. Ok, so I only saw Halloween on my 16-17. But Freddy and Jason are a fucking staple. They stood the test of time.

EDIT: Hahah, well that one too. And Urban Legend.

[Dead & Messed Up]

Bah. A Nightmare on Elm Street 3 is totally the best of that series. And if you disagree, I sic Dokken on you!

I wanted Freddy to kill every one of those irritating teens. And Langenkamp was at her worst in that one.

[Ivan Drago]

Horror movies from our generation. Scream. I Know What You Did Last Summer, and, you know, so on.

I like both movies. Scream is a great movie and I Know...is a huge guilty pleasure of mine.

And I still stand by my statement: The Friday The 13th franchise is the worst franchise ever committed to celluloid.

[Dead & Messed Up]

And I still stand by my statement: The Friday The 13th franchise is the worst franchise ever committed to celluloid.

I've seen three, and it was three too many.

[number8]

Pftth, I'm 22. I still saw those slashers in my teens. It was like a rite of passage for me. I am not a film buff until I've seen every single Friday the 13th movie. So one Halloween in junior high I rented them all and did a marathon.

[D_Davis]

And I still stand by my statement: The Friday The 13th franchise is the worst franchise ever committed to celluloid.

Not even close.

Scary Movie, Spoof Movie, Police Academy, Saw, Witchboard, Puppet Master, Species, Trancers...just to name a few.

[The Mike]

Not even close.

Scary Movie, Spoof Movie, Police Academy, Saw, Witchboard, Puppet Master, Species, Trancers...just to name a few.

How about Witchcraft?

There's at least 12 of those damn movies. Ridiculous.

[Bosco B Thug]

All the evidence you'll ever need to prove that Jason has, in fact, run before:

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=Nud9-hG0EdY I love the Friday the 13th films.

Here's the real real (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.indi vidual&videoid=45036696) teaser trailer for the remake.

Let me be the first to say, emphatically: YAWN.

I would love to have been excited for this, but that trailer was one big snore. Dirty and ragged "realistic" Jason is boring. I want stocky, "costume-party" Jason. The "running shot" is pretty cool, I guess, mostly due to that neat brass shock cue that underscores it.

For what looks to be the much more fun slasher film remake event of 2009, go watch the My Bloody Valentine 3-D trailer. They might be on to something with that one.

[D_Davis]

How about Witchcraft?

There's at least 12 of those damn movies. Ridiculous.

Woops - that's what I meant!

Thanks.

[Wryan]

Bay's just trying so damn hard. Poor guy.

[Ezee E]

Bay's just trying so damn hard. Poor guy.
Not really. He simply finds a director-for-hire, puts together a good trailer, and lets the money roll in without really doing a thing.

[Grouchy]

I really love the fact that in the Jason movie subtitled Jason Takes Manhattan, he's only in Manhattan for, like, 15 minutes. The rest of the movie, if I remember it right, takes place on some boat.

[Scar]

I really love the fact that in the Jason movie subtitled Jason Takes Manhattan, he's only in Manhattan for, like, 15 minutes. The rest of the movie, if I remember it right, takes place on some boat.

That movie is a fucking abomination!

[Bosco B Thug]

That movie is a fucking abomination!
Seriously, Part VIII downright suuuuuucks.

[D_Davis]

That movie is a fucking abomination!

Worst movie of the entire franchise.

[Rowland]

Friday the 13th Part V is underrated, at least by the standards of the series.

A New Nightmare is overrated, a mere warm-up for Scream with one of cinema's most irritating child actors. I'd rather watch Renny Harlin's entry.

The Halloween sequels, barring Season of the Witch, annoy me more than any of the other slasher series, primarily because they work so hard to tarnish the elegant brilliance of Carpenter's original. At least the fifth Halloween is so bad that it makes for glorious MST3K-style entertainment.

The TCM remake and its prequel are actually pretty cool. Never watch Leatherface: TCM III, it's one of the worst movies I've ever seen. Poor Viggo Mortensen...

[D_Davis]

TCM 2 is more entertaining than the first.

TCM 2 is flat out awesome.

Halloween 3: Season of the Witch is my favorite Halloween film.

[Grouchy]

Yeah, Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 is an example of a great dark comedy.

And also a good shot at making a sequel that's its own beast and defies comparisons with the first one.

[D_Davis]

Yeah, Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 is an example of a great dark comedy.

And also a good shot at making a sequel that's its own beast and defies comparisons with the first one.

Totally agree.

The filmmakers knew they couldn't top the first in its own game, and so they did something completely different.

[Pop Trash]

Friday the 13th Part V is underrated, at least by the standards of the series.

A New Nightmare is overrated, a mere warm-up for Scream with one of cinema's most irritating child actors. I'd rather watch Renny Harlin's entry.

The Halloween sequels, barring Season of the Witch, annoy me more than any of the other slasher series, primarily because they work so hard to tarnish the elegant brilliance of Carpenter's original. At least the fifth Halloween is so bad that it makes for glorious MST3K-style entertainment.

The TCM remake and its prequel are actually pretty cool. Never watch Leatherface: TCM III, it's one of the worst movies I've ever seen. Poor Viggo Mortensen...

I seem to remember liking Friday the 13th 4: The "Final" Chapter the best. It had Corey Feldman AND fucking Crispin Glover in it. Whoa! And it had that creepy scene where Corey cuts his hair all weird and starts talking to Jason like he's his mom. Whoa!

[Watashi]

Quite possibly the most spoilerrific trailer you'll ever see. (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810022022/video)

Why bother seeing the movie now?

[Boner M]

Maybe it's just me, but the cast list cracked me up:

Jared Padalecki, Danielle Panabaker, Amanda Righetti, Travis Van Winkle, Derek Mears, Aaron Yoo, Jonathan Sadowski, Willa Ford, Richard Burgi

It's just so hilariously no-name-ish.

[The Mike]

Because it's a remake of one of the worst successful horror films of all-time which was already ruined by 8 sequels (not counting Jason X, which is amazing), and is from a horrible hack director who already butchered one horror film via remake and then made Pathfinder?

And yet, I'll still see it opening night.

[The Mike]

Maybe it's just me, but the cast list cracked me up:

Jared Padalecki, Danielle Panabaker, Amanda Righetti, Travis Van Winkle, Derek Mears, Aaron Yoo, Jonathan Sadowski, Willa Ford, Richard Burgi

It's just so hilariously no-name-ish.And no love for Ryan Hansen, even though he's blatantly shown in the trailers. Shame.

[Scar]

I'll be all over this like stink on shit.

[MadMan]

I seem to remember liking Friday the 13th 4: The "Final" Chapter the best. It had Corey Feldman AND fucking Crispin Glover in it. Whoa! And it had that creepy scene where Corey cuts his hair all weird and starts talking to Jason like he's his mom. Whoa!Hah, yeah that was just crazy, weird, and funny all at the same time. WTF Corey Feldman? :lol:


Quite possibly the most spoilerrific trailer you'll ever see. (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810022022/video)

Why bother seeing the movie now?Hey, that one dude from Supernatural is in this. Also that trailer now convinces me that this remake will be a "Jason's Greatest Hits." I was kind of laughing at some of the stuff shown, if only because much of it is pretty cliche.

And if its set in the 21st century instead of the 80s, those kids have no excuse for not Googling "Camp Crystal Lake."

Will I go see this? Probably. I've now seen half of the series (the first four and Jason Goes to Hell) and I'm a fan at this point.

[Ezee E]

Maybe it's just me, but the cast list cracked me up:

Jared Padalecki, Danielle Panabaker, Amanda Righetti, Travis Van Winkle, Derek Mears, Aaron Yoo, Jonathan Sadowski, Willa Ford, Richard Burgi

It's just so hilariously no-name-ish.
But at least these kids can have friends of all races!

[number8]

Richard Burgi is no no-name, thankyewverymuch.

[Bosco B Thug]

Quite possibly the most spoilerrific trailer you'll ever see. (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810022022/video)

Why bother seeing the movie now?
Yeah, I'm pretty peeved at the trailer. It's pretty much admitting we're in it for the kills, and it's admitting it at such a cynical degree, it thinks it can spoil them for us and think we'll still come in for the money shots.

But that said, this is much better than the teaser trailer. I'm actually kind of excited for this now. The violence actually looks pretty well-conceived and diverse, and the pre-kill stalkage doesn't seem like just a bunch of walking around in the adrk.

But can these nu-slasher trailers just stop starting themselves with a "frolicking teenagers on a roadtrip" montage? So effing annoying.

[MadMan]

Ah yes, the good 'ole "Road trip leads to horrible, nasty things happening to all involved" horror movie cliche. I think that might be one of my favorite cliches.

[Kurosawa Fan]

Yeah, I'm pretty peeved at the trailer. It's pretty much admitting we're in it for the kills, and it's admitting it at such a cynical degree, it thinks it can spoil them for us and think we'll still come in for the money shots.

But that said, this is much better than the teaser trailer. I'm actually kind of excited for this now. The violence actually looks pretty well-conceived and diverse, and the pre-kill stalkage doesn't seem like just a bunch of walking around in the adrk.

Oh, how wrong they were.

[Bosco B Thug]

Oh, how wrong they were.
I avow and avouch the sad irony of my statements.

Flying machete, slo-mo window crash, and a chick gets mowered by a motor boat! HELLA yeah.

[Kurosawa Fan]

I avow and avouch the sad irony of my statements.

Flying machete, slo-mo window crash, and a chick gets mowered by a motor boat! HELLA yeah.

:lol:

Might as well just go all out.

[Dead & Messed Up]

You know, after Psycho, and Godzilla, and The Haunting, and House on Haunted Hill, and 13 Ghosts, and The Ring, and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and Willard, and The Grudge, and The Stepford Wives, and The Ring 2, and The Fog, and The Wicker Man, and The Amityville Horror, and House of Wax, and Dark Water, and When a Stranger Calls, and The Grudge 2, and The Omen, and Black Christmas, and The Hills Have Eyes, and Night of the Living Dead 3D, and Pulse, and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning, and The Invasion, and The Hills Have Eyes 2, and Halloween, and The Hitcher, and Prom Night, and Day of the Dead, and The Eye, and Shutter, and One Missed Call, and Sisters, and Funny Games, and Pulse 2, and Mirrors, and Quarantine...

...I'm kinda tired of this shit.

[Spun Lepton]

You know, after Psycho, and Godzilla, and The Haunting, and House on Haunted Hill, and 13 Ghosts, and The Ring, and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and Willard, and The Grudge, and The Stepford Wives, and The Ring 2, and The Fog, and The Wicker Man, and The Amityville Horror, and House of Wax, and Dark Water, and When a Stranger Calls, and The Grudge 2, and The Omen, and Black Christmas, and The Hills Have Eyes, and Night of the Living Dead 3D, and Pulse, and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning, and The Invasion, and The Hills Have Eyes 2, and Halloween, and The Hitcher, and Prom Night, and Day of the Dead, and The Eye, and Shutter, and One Missed Call, and Sisters, and Funny Games, and Pulse 2, and Mirrors, and Quarantine...

...I'm kinda tired of this shit.

I agree so much that I'm practically soaking in it.

[Ezee E]

I missed Night of the Living Dead in 3D???????

[Raiders]

You know, after Psycho, and Godzilla, and The Haunting, and House on Haunted Hill, and 13 Ghosts, and The Ring, and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and Willard, and The Grudge, and The Stepford Wives, and The Ring 2, and The Fog, and The Wicker Man, and The Amityville Horror, and House of Wax, and Dark Water, and When a Stranger Calls, and The Grudge 2, and The Omen, and Black Christmas, and The Hills Have Eyes, and Night of the Living Dead 3D, and Pulse, and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning, and The Invasion, and The Hills Have Eyes 2, and Halloween, and The Hitcher, and Prom Night, and Day of the Dead, and The Eye, and Shutter, and One Missed Call, and Sisters, and Funny Games, and Pulse 2, and Mirrors, and Quarantine...

...I'm kinda tired of this shit.

Have you actually watched all of those? If so, I think you only have yourself to blame. If not, what's the big deal?

[Dead & Messed Up]

Have you actually watched all of those? If so, I think you only have yourself to blame. If not, what's the big deal?

I never said it was a big deal. I said, "I'm kinda tired of this shit." Which seems a legitimate statement to make, given the overabundance of such films.

[The Mike]

I missed Night of the Living Dead in 3D???????It's actually one of the better films on that list. :eek:

[number8]

It's actually one of the better films on that list. :eek:

Sid Haig makes everything better, despite the "Theyre comin 4 U Brbra"

[Dukefrukem]

Quite possibly the most spoilerrific trailer you'll ever see. (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810022022/video)

Why bother seeing the movie now?

Yeah thats pretty bad. Almost as bad as the 'Cast Away' trailer where they actually said in the trailer;


Friend: "We had a funeral and a coffin..."

Tom Hanks: "Well what was in it?"

[The Mike]

Sid Haig makes everything better, despite the "Theyre comin 4 U Brbra"

Yeah, that was sickening. I had blocked it, and now you've let it out. :cry:

[Watashi]

This is making a shitload of money.

[Dukefrukem]

I can see it doing well. Esp on valentines day weekend.

[MadMan]

Yes, I saw this on Friday. And it wasn't half bad, at least not as hilariously awful as Jason Goes to Hell was. There was actually a lot of humor, the usual crazy/cool kills, and the most amount of nudity in the series, probably since the 4th film at least. If anything I had to view it in the theater, as it was best watched with people simply because of some of their reactions. Mine was laughing at some of the stupid shit the "characters" (loosely stated, as they were cardboard cutouts) did throughout the film. Oh and Jason pretty much is a badass ninja at this point, what with the bow and arrow use and the ax throwing, plus him just magically moving everywhere and anywhere.

If the people behind the current reboot were interested in making a Jason film that was rather distinctive instead of something similar to the original series, they could do it with the next flick. But I highly doubt that will happen. The current formula makes a lot of money.

You'd think these people, having access to the previous batch of Jason movies, would know better than to even go to the camp. Or dump his body in the river without woodchippering the shit out of him. He didn't even look like he had been cut up. At all. Weak.

The Halloween remake is much, much better.

[number8]

Reposting from the comic book thread:

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So, I recently got my hands on a Jason vs Leatherface miniseries from the 90's by Topps Comics, and I was pretty surprised when I read it to see that the writer gave a lot of thought into it. If you'll excuse me, I'd like to describe the whole series here, see what you make of this compared to Freddy vs Jason:

The story is, Jason is stuck at the bottom of Crystal Lake after Friday part VI, but then he gets scooped up when the EPA is cleaning the lake and transporting the dump by train. Jason wakes and kills everyone on board, causing it to crash in... Texas.

Jason wanders into Sawyerville and sees Leatherface and Hitchhiker chasing some poor sap through the woods. The sap screams at Jason for help, which prompts Hitchhiker to order Leatherface to kill Jason. Jason knocks Leatherface's chainsaw away with his machete, but instead of attacking Leatherface he turns and chops the poor sap's head off. Seeing this, Hitchhiker tells Leatherface to stand down and calls Jason "one of us." He then invites Jason to have dinner with the Family. The narrator notes that this is OOC for Jason, who usually kills anyone he meets, but Jason figures that he can kill them later, after he finds out what these two are all about.

In the house, Jason meets the Sawyer's fucked up family and watches as Hitchhiker keeps bullying his little brother Leatherface. Leatherface runs into his room and Jason curiously follows. Jason sees Leatherface, without his mask on, crying on his bed, and remembers himself as an ugly kid crying because he kept getting picked on. Jason knocks on the door politely and motions for Leatherface to come with him back downstairs so they can have family dinner together. D'aaawwwww....?

So Jason stays with them for a few days. Hitchhiker takes him on a killing spree, and then shows Jason his hobby of building furniture out of human bones. Leatherface sits on a human chair and accidentally destroys it. Hitchhiker gets mad and starts slapping Leatherface around, making him cry. Jason sees this and is reminded of his own father who used to beat him, and how his mother killed his dad for it. Jason decides to protect Leatherface and tries to kill Hitchhiker, but Leatherface stops and begs him not to kill his brother. Jason leaves, which causes Hitchhiker to gloat and scold Leatherface for interfering in his fights, instead of being grateful. Leatherface cries again.

Jason goes off to the attic to be emo about his conflicted feelings about Leatherface, finding Grandpa and Grandma's corpses up there with some family photos. Cook comes up to apologize to Jason on Hitchhiker's behalf, and explains to Jason the Family's backstory and why they stick together. Jason starts to feel like he's finally found someone like him in Leatherface. All this time, he only knows how to destroy love and life (ie killing people who celebrate them by having sex and smoking pot), but now maybe he learns that family love is different. Jason thinks he can be friends with Leatherface.

But then, one dinner, Hitch starts beating on Leatherface again, so Jason ruins dinner by going after Hitchhiker. Cook steps in, so Jason chases after him too. Cook yells at Leatherface to get the chainsaw protect his family. He does, but Jason doesn't want to fight. He lowers his machete... and Leatherface slices him with the chainsaw. Jason feels betrayed, his only friend who shares his confusion has turned on him for a family that bullies him. Jason decides then that all love, any love is bad and must be destroyed. Jason and Leatherface fight to a draw, but Hitchhiker sneaks up behind Jason and smashes his skull with a hammer. Hitchhiker insists on tearing the hockey mask off to see Jason's ugly face, and Leatherface, for the first time, stands up to him to say no.

The Fam ties Jason to a cinderblock and tosses him in a lake. In a tender moment, Leatherface drops a rose in the lake to say goodbye to his friend.

Later, Jason escapes and climbs back up. He goes back to the farmhouse, but then decides not to attack, concluding that he should leave Leatherface and his Family alone.


:sad: *sniff*

[MadMan]

That entire story would make for a better movie than most of the films in the Jason series.

[Ivan Drago]

Hey MadMan, since you've seen it I'm curious - I've heard that this remake combines the first 4 Friday the 13th movies into one. Is this true?

[MadMan]

Hey MadMan, since you've seen it I'm curious - I've heard that this remake combines the first 4 Friday the 13th movies into one. Is this true?Pretty much, although there are some differences. There's the barn from Part III, plenty of nudity (but no Crispin Glover, sadly) from Part IV, the bag on the head from Part II, Jason's backstory (featured in Parts I, II, and Jason Goes to Hell), and the teens ignoring the camp's history (Part III, the rest of the series :lol: ) And there's a reference in the ending, which I won't spoil. And oh yeah, the old person who warns the people to stay away, which is called "The duel citizen," and that was Ralph's function in the first two movies.

Part of the fun was finding all of the references, and noting what they took from the previous films. What I would like to see is a Jason movie where he goes into town and raises hell there, if only because the people who live in town never seem to be affected by Jason. He's only gone into the town and killed people once, and that was in Part III I think.

[Ivan Drago]

There's the barn from Part III, plenty of nudity (but no Crispin Glover, sadly) from Part IV, the bag on the head from Part II, Jason's backstory (featured in Parts I, II, and Jason Goes to Hell), and the teens ignoring the camp's history (Part III, the rest of the series :lol: ) And there's a reference in the ending, which I won't spoil. And oh yeah, the old person who warns the people to stay away, which is called "The duel citizen," and that was Ralph's function in the first two movies.

Unless the reference is to Jason X or Freddy vs. Jason, you can go ahead and tell me what the reference in the ending is, I haven't seen most of the Friday The 13th movies...and don't plan to.

[MadMan]

Unless the reference is to Jason X or Freddy vs. Jason, you can go ahead and tell me what the reference in the ending is, I haven't seen most of the Friday The 13th movies...and don't plan to.Oh, okay. The ending features the two survivors dumping Jason's body in the water. After about 10 minutes, he busts up through the docks. Which in some ways is a homage to the original 1980 film that ended with a dream sequence where the surviving woman gets attacked and dragged out of her canoe by a young Jason. Which, even though I knew it was coming due to it having been spoilered, still scared the ever living piss out of me.

[Bosco B Thug]

Oh my God so f*king dull. The end.

[Spun Lepton]

Oh my God so f*king dull. The end.

In that regard, then, it's a perfect F13 movie.

[Bosco B Thug]

In that regard, then, it's a perfect F13 movie.
I've been thinking: if this remake is of any use, it'll make non-fans realize what relative (or absolute, if they really come around...) joys the 80s 'Friday' flicks were. The eccentric stupid slasher film, where part of the fun was their lampoon of an eclectic set of stereotypes and caricatures. God this movie was so dull.

[Dukefrukem]

Watched this tonight. It's not a good remake. They fly through the Mrs. Voorhees setup, so they can avoid her through 95% of the movie. I don't like how they tried to implement Jason as a living person, by peering into how he lives in the woods, or how he still worships his mother... it's all nonsense in the grand scheme of slasher movies. Jason was never very intelligent to begin with so why do they bother making death scenes that actually take some thought from a killer aspect? (killing from below the floor?) We know the story, we know who Jason is, just give us a movie with a ton of people dying. At least they get that part right.

[Irish]

Man this was dull.

I liked how they tried to include a real story in it (the Supernatural guy searching for his sister) and I liked all the little nods to the earlier movies but damn .. Everything else is shit.

Like the TCM remake, it looked good and played okay but it's just so boring. The movie has no energy and soul.

I burst out laughing when Jason nailed a moving target -- a kid in a speedboat, no less -- from like fifty yards away with a bow and arrow.

Since when did Jason turn into Rambo?

Reading the Wiki page I was stunned to discover this was written by the same guys who wrote Freddy vs Jason.

What the hell happened?

[number8]

They wrote a tongue in cheek slasher like FvJ and Marcus Nispel decided to film it as a serious, gritty horror movie.

[Irish]

I don't know if Nispel is completely at fault here, though. I mean we can blame him for the obvious: the constant use of filters, the dull line readings, the bare bones editing, etc.

But the rest? F13 doesn't have nearly the inventiveness or ideas of FVJ. I mean, most of the good stuff in this remake are overt callbacks to the first few films.

So Nispel might have changed the tone, but where are the ideas?