12 Films Eligible for Best Animated Feature Oscar [Archive]

Spinal

11-09-2007, 05:31 PM

Ratatouille
Bee Movie
Shrek the Third
Surf's Up
The Simpsons Movie
Beowulf
Alvin and the Chipmunks
Meet the Robinsons
Aqua Teen Hunger Force Colon Movie Film for Theaters
TMNT
Tekkonkinkreet
Persepolis

Link (http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/ap/20071109/119460864000.html)

So, with all due respect to Tekkonkinkreet, which I'm sure is wonderful, I don't see how this possibly goes to any film but Ratatouille.

Sycophant

11-09-2007, 05:34 PM

So, with all due respect to Tekkonkinkreet, which I'm sure is wonderful, I don't see how this possibly goes to any film but Ratatouille.
It's the only film up there that stands a chance, really. Persepolis will get to the final nominees, I'd bet, but it certainly won't win.

Pity Sony released Paprika last year to try to win an Oscar it didn't have a chance at. It'd do better this year.

Sven

11-09-2007, 05:34 PM

I don't see how this possibly goes to any film but Ratatouille.

Of the listed, I've only seen that, Surf's Up (which I liked a little bit more) and Aqua Teen Hunger Force (which doesn't deserve any awards ever).

Kurosawa Fan

11-09-2007, 05:36 PM

I think the dark horse is Persepolis, which seems to be a critics darling right now. But you're probably right, it's probably Ratatouille's already.

Spinal

11-09-2007, 05:36 PM

Of the listed, I've only seen that, Surf's Up (which I liked a little bit more) and Aqua Teen Hunger Force (which doesn't deserve any awards ever).

You liked Surf's Up more than Ratatouille? Ugh, I thought it was dreadful. Not as bad as Bee Movie, but just really blah.

Spinal

11-09-2007, 05:37 PM

I think the dark horse is Persepolis, which seems to be a critics darling right now. But you're probably right, it's probably Ratatouille's already.

Yeah, I'd give it a chance if critics voted on this award. But they don't.

Kurosawa Fan

11-09-2007, 05:38 PM

Yeah, I'd give it a chance if critics voted on this award. But they don't.

No, but sometimes the academy is swayed by that "little movie that could", which usually comes from the critical reception.

Spinal

11-09-2007, 05:42 PM

Ratatouille
The Simpsons Movie
Meet the Robinsons
Tekkonkinkreet
Persepolis

Hard to tell how many they will nominate, but my guess is that these are the top 5.

Watashi

11-09-2007, 05:42 PM

Those are pretty much all the animated movies that came out this year anyway. The animated Oscar is a joke. Why don't they raise the nominations to five?

Rowland

11-09-2007, 05:43 PM

If the award was based entirely on the artistry of the animation, Tekkonkinkreet might deserve it. As a movie though, nah.

Spinal

11-09-2007, 05:44 PM

Why don't they raise the nominations to five?

Maybe because that would mean nominating almost half of the eligible films.

Watashi

11-09-2007, 05:44 PM

It's going to be Beowulf, Ratatouille, and The Simpsons Movie.

Sven

11-09-2007, 05:44 PM

You liked Surf's Up more than Ratatouille? Ugh, I thought it was dreadful. Not as bad as Bee Movie, but just really blah.

Yeah. I kind of put them both on the same level of bland, harmless fodder, but Surf's Up had a muse played by Jeff Bridges playing the ukulele. Ratatouille's muse was that annoying guy from Everybody Loves Raymond. And I was more frustrated by Ratatouille's preachiness and world logic and hubris.

Raiders

11-09-2007, 05:44 PM

Shrek the Third will be nominated. It won't win, but there's no way it isn't getting a nomination.

MadMan

11-09-2007, 05:44 PM

Ratatouille
Shrek the Third
Aqua Teen Hunger Force Colon Movie Film for Theaters
TMNT

Are the only ones I've seen. Out of that group Ratatouille is the best, hands down. The ATHF movie was a guilty pleasure of mine. TMNT was disappointingly medocre, and Shrek the Third was so bland I don't even remember what happened in it. I (sadly) still need to see The Simpsons Movie and I may view Meet the Robinsons, Beowolf and Bee Movie on DVD.

Spinal

11-09-2007, 05:52 PM

Maybe we're being too quick to dismiss Alvin and the Chipmunks. We don't know. It could be really innovative and artistic and moving.

:|

D_Davis

11-09-2007, 06:00 PM

If the award was based entirely on the artistry of the animation, Tekkonkinkreet might deserve it. As a movie though, nah.

It totally deserves it. It is a fantastic film. But it won't win. The award will go to Pixar.

Rowland

11-09-2007, 06:02 PM

It totally deserves it. It is a fantastic film. But it won't win. The award will go to Pixar.Ehh, I don't think so. It tries way too hard for so little.

D_Davis

11-09-2007, 06:09 PM

Ehh, I don't think so. It tries way too hard for so little.

I disagree. It is brilliant, full of solid characterizations, great symbolism, and a powerful, mature narrative. It's the best 2007 released film I've seen this year. I think it is a masterpiece of the medium.

The only film I've seen for the first time this year that I like better is Mind Game.

Spinal

11-09-2007, 06:12 PM

It tries way too hard for so little.

I kind of felt this way about Mind Game. Others seem to have had a transcendent experience, but I found that very little of the actual substance of the film moved me. The animation is a treat though.

Rowland

11-09-2007, 06:14 PM

I disagree. It is brilliant, full of solid characterizations, great symbolism, and a powerful, mature narrative. It's the best 2007 released film I've seen this year. I think it is a masterpiece of the medium.Great symbolism? The movie is so crammed to the edges of every other frame with blatant symbolism, it's borderline ridiculous. I mean c'mon, making the older brother wear a yin-yang jacket while giving him stigmata wounds on his hands? :rolleyes: The narrative feels like an entire manga series downsized into a two hour film, and the visuals are far too elaborate, so that it goes from being impressive and immersive to just kinda annoying, as you don't even know where to direct your vision half the time.

D_Davis

11-09-2007, 06:16 PM

Great symbolism? The movie is crammed to the edges of the frame with symbolism, it's borderline ridiculous. I mean c'mon, making the older brother wear a Yin-Yang jacket while giving him stigmata wounds on his hands? :rolleyes: The narrative feels like an entire manga series downsized into a two hour film, and the visuals are far too elaborate, so that it goes from being impressive and immersive to just kinda annoying, as you don't even know where to direct your vision half the time.

I didn't say subtle symbolism. There is a time and place for subtlety, just as there is a time and place for bombast, and Tekkonkinkreet, like the manga, takes the bombastic approach and benefits greatly from it.

D_Davis

11-09-2007, 06:18 PM

I kind of felt this way about Mind Game. Others seem to have had a transcendent experience, but I found that very little of the actual substance of the film moved me. The animation is a treat though.

I think these two films impact people who are on a certain wavelength. I just happen to be on this wavelength. In no way do I think they have wide appeal, which is why Tekkonkinkreet does not stand a chance of winning, I'll be surprised if it is even picked as an actual nomination.

Lester Burnham

11-09-2007, 09:34 PM

Call me crazy or ignorant, but I sort of didn't like any of those. In terms of the quality of animation I'd definitely go for Ratatouille, but otherwise, I really wouldn't know which one to chose. Animated movies are just not what they used to be when I was a kid, they seem to have lost their soul over the course of years. Or maybe I'm just getting older, who knows.

eternity

11-09-2007, 10:19 PM

Wait, Beowulf counts?

Watashi

11-09-2007, 10:26 PM

Wait, Beowulf counts?

Uh, of course.

Why wouldn't it?

MadMan

11-09-2007, 10:40 PM

Am I the only fan of the ATHF movie 'round these parts? The film reminded me a lot of Un Chien Andalou and Head, if only because all of those films are really strange and don't make a good deal of sense. Although I'd rank Buñuel's film above the other two, if only because its the strangest of the bunch and has an expert, dream like quality to it. The other two are a bit overlong and ATHF did test even my patience, and I'm a fan of the show. Still I don't regret seeing it in the theater and leaving wondering what the hell my friend and I had just seen.

baby doll

11-09-2007, 11:58 PM

I haven't seen any of them, but Persepolis at least looks interesting.

Stay Puft

11-10-2007, 12:20 AM

Am I the only fan of the ATHF movie 'round these parts?

I am also a fan.

I liked it a good deal, though it does amount to a long winded, middle of the road episode. It may not reach the heights frequently seen in the show, but it's loaded with good stuff (love the Space Ghost cameo) and I can't overstate my appreciation for its overall contribution to the show's mythos.

eternity

11-10-2007, 01:05 AM

Uh, of course.

Why wouldn't it?

They didn't let The Polar Express count because it used motion capture animation. I heard that the same was going to apply for Beowulf from multiple sources prior to now.

Guess not.

Sycophant

11-10-2007, 01:31 AM

MadMan

11-10-2007, 03:55 AM

I am also a fan.

I liked it a good deal, though it does amount to a long winded, middle of the road episode. It may not reach the heights frequently seen in the show, but it's loaded with good stuff (love the Space Ghost cameo) and I can't overstate my appreciation for its overall contribution to the show's mythos.Awesome to hear. Yeah it did seem like an extension of the show, but in a good way. So many moments were utterly hilarious, while other moments weirded me out in a way that the show often does.

Sycophant I can pretty much understand that :cool:

Watashi

11-10-2007, 05:01 AM

They didn't let The Polar Express count because it used motion capture animation. I heard that the same was going to apply for Beowulf from multiple sources prior to now.

Guess not.

Uh, The Polar Express was eligible. Same with Monster House (which got nominated) which all use the same technique.